[Ban Appeal] THCOOL

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  1. Whammerist5

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    I'll ask the same question I asked Fury.
    Do you believe you could've prevented the VoE scam, by taking action?
     
  2. THCOOL

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    I did do this. I accused only 1 person. I laughed because emotions were high and the ban was still very recent. I laughed in response to a comment that was made that accused me and yes I was wrong to do so, but it was not meant to be taken literally. Seeing that it now was, I am sorry and I should have never said it. However, I never laughed about the burning so I don't know where you are getting that from. Since you wish to bring up that Skype conversation, I too have screenshots of it. You should see the things that were said about me in there. I will not post screenshots due to the amount of vulgarity with it, but the stuff that was said is outright messed up and I know that this is not the first time that this Skype group has "discussed" specific players. It is disgusting. There was even a comment (an extremely vulgar one) about me that was made by yourself @kukelekuuk00. Again, I will not post it since it will be deleted immediately due to the language, but I will keep it saved just incase. Thanks for your feedback/concern
     
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  3. THCOOL

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    Hard to say. Again, my judgement was wrong and at the time, everything added up and I was told the right things so I saw no reason to take any action. If I knew that he was going to be scamming and then burning the eff7, I would have notified a higher up of this. This whole situation does not benefit me whatsoever, I did not gain a single thing.
     
  4. a18greek18

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    Just for curiousity's sake, could you possibly edit out his name and send the screenshots to me in a forum pm or post them on this thread?
     
  5. kukelekuuk

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    I can send them in a PM, but I can't post them here because aside from his name, there is also a frankly inane amount of profanity in the context.
     
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    You think your ban was unfortunate?

    Definition of Unfortunate:
    having or marked by bad fortune; unlucky.

    Unfortunate wouldn't be the first word that comes into my head when thinking about your ban...

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    I think your a generally nice guy, but most staffers do go in /v when they go afk, 'unfortunately' neither of you did and 'unfortunately' it was at a time where someone needed you to be still for a recording, maybe dumb luck but i dunno...

    I personally dont believe the mob to decide a players fate so i wont be saying yay or nay but this whole situation i just a mess....
     
  7. THCOOL

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    I dont have /v and moderators don't get this feature, otherwise I would have.

    And yes, I will use unfortunate. My appeal states why I personally think so.
     
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    That is....unfortunate

    The irony...
     
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    Not a valid excuse.
    My apologies, it was obble.

    Whatever was said by was completely irrelevant. I don't see any reason why you'd point out profane language on skype. I get that there was profane language. That's the very reason I can't post screenshots.

    Is that.. a threat? Maybe I'm just reading into this too much, but basically what this says is "please stop posting or I'll post this image where you called me a "c**t"
     
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    unfortunately you both happened to be afk in that exact spot, in the correct pose, and just happened to have no idea what's going in. Real unfortunate indeed.
     
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  11. THCOOL

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    Fury's reasoning for being there is his own problem, not mine. He is his own person. I explained my reasoning as to why I was there (and already admitted to knowing that it was for a video :/ So I'm not sure why you are stating information that has already been addressed/answered).... not him. If you have a problem with it, please take it up with him.
     
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  12. THCOOL

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    Think as you wish, you are entitled to them. It is what happened and I will stand by it. Was I wrong in reacting that way? Yes. Was I being literal? No. I was mad at the comment that was directed at me, he accused me of scamming before knowing any information, others were laughing and so my reaction was to join in on the joke that was against myself. It was meant more as a mock, but I see how you do not see it that way.
    The reason to point it out is because you presented the Skype conversation as if I was blatantly confessing to something that I did not do. The reason I pointed this out was to show the reasoning for my reaction as stated above. I was thrown into completely hostile territory, was harassed like I've never seen before, and so I reacted.
    call it what you wish. You claimed you had screenshots but wouldn't post them, so I claimed I had screenshots but wouldn't post them. If I was trying to threaten you, believe me when I say that I would be a lot more obvious in doing so. The screenshots are simply for my own protection. Take it as you wish man
     
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    Alright I am going to reply to this without looking at any of the comments from other users and go by only what I know from this appeal/video/your history on ecc. I have always seen you as a good kid on ecc. Never banned or a problem in the community. Looks to me like you and fury were played pretty harshly by someone that was considered a friend. I don't know the whole story but out of everyone you seem to be the least involved here. Set up even to be seen as involved more than you actually were. I wouldn't have any problems with seeing you back on ecc and I don't feel like you deserve to be put in stocks and have the community throwing tomatoes at you. Thats what these appeals seem to be to me. :/ I do not approve. Hope to see you back.
     
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    No questions..

    To be honest I dont really care for either yours or fury's attitude regarding this whole mess.. I am willing to give both of you the benefit of doubt.. but I dont feel we are getting the whole story nor any real remorse for your actions.. guilty or not you were both memebers of the staff team who clearly were bias in your duties to others, obviously had some knowledge of what was happening (I cant imagine either of you being that dumb, if so then the SAs who promoted you to staff share some blame), and ofcourse not taking action at any point. You saw the signs but didnt think anything of it?? Come on I knew something was up with the first sign I saw.

    After taking some time to really think this through It is my opinion that until you guys come forth and have the courage to state the obivious and own up to your actions both as a player and staff, I see no reason why either should be allowed back.

    I hope that you take my advide a bit more seriously the Fury and prevent this thread from turing into what we saw with his appeal.

    I do appologize for lumping you guys together, but thats warranted given the circumstances.

    Oh and one thing... Based on what comments I saw in staff channel that were leak coming from you.. it is clear that you should never be staff again.

    Both ashamed at you and the staff on the channel at the time who apparently did nothing about it.

    I wish ya the same luck as Fury.
     
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    After reading this appeal, I thought you were remorseful and that you 'might' deserve to be unbanned... However, after seeing kuke's screenshots of Skype, it seems that you acted exactly like obble (being a dick, trolling, acting suspicious, etc.) and imo that deserves to be punished severely.

    Back to the appeal... Sure, you did do a better job than Fury of covering up your 'unfortunate mistakes', as Mission said. But I still strongly believe that you were fully aware of Obble's intentions.

    Throughout my time on ECC I've had many experiences with scammers, whether they be friends or enemies, and they all tend to act the same way after being banned and filing appeals. After receiving a ban they laugh about it for the first while because they knew things staff didn't, and then in their appeals they show some remorse and tell the bare minimum needed for an unban. 'Unfortunately', I see right through you.

    Once you tell us that you knew about Obble's intentions, then I'll be able to accept your apology, but until then, SMH. Rip in ban.
     
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  16. THCOOL

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    Your opinions are your own. But I feel the need to address this. Perhaps this is me getting emotional as I feel targeted or as @physyy put it
    Ive apologized more than enough times and have already admitted to knowing about the video and him quitting. It seems to me like you won't be happy unless I say "Hey I scammed as well. I helped obble and knew about everything." I am sorry, but this will NEVER happen because it is false. This whole thing has hurt me MUCH more than you may think. Why on earth would I even take the time to email Andrew multiple times, re-appeal here, and take on all the crap and harassment that is being thrown my way just for a single minecraft server... wouldn't it be easier to just quit and not have to endure all of this mess? If I wanted to help him, wouldn't I have at least gained something from it or just quit along with him? I gained absolutely NOTHING from this. The only thing I have gained is a completely ruined reputation. That means no more business ventures for me which is the sole reason I started playing on this server just under 3 years ago now and have continued to do so since.
     
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    Meh. That was your chance to be honest. I saw the way you acted to others who were either competitors to VoE or banned/shunned from it. You're very shady, and in my opinion, very two-faced. I invite everyone to talk to anyone previously banned from VoE so they can attest to how rude this user can be. You knew what Obble was doing. Fury was always nice to people, and helped others during this incidents. You didn't. Fury was Obble's puppet. You were his henchman. A certain friend who I know can't post here I talked to earlier had some great words to describe you. I'll let you ask yourself what you think those were.

    Please, for the good of ECC, stay banned.
     
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    Chance to be honest? As I just stated, I have been in coming out and admitting to everything that I had knowledge of.

    I am sorry you feel this way @Whammerist5, but me being rude to competitors or people being banned has absolutely nothing to do with this appeal. Yes, I can be rude to them, but remember that they were banned for a REASON. You are inviting everyone to comment on this as if I am the bad "henchman" as you so kindly put it. I find this a bit rude tbh and so you are counteracting your very own comment. Please keep all your comments/questions relevant to the appeal man. This is not some open roast as I feel it is slowly starting to become.
     
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    I think you're more guilty than fury and most users wanted fury to have a long temp ban and never be on staff. Well Mr. THCOOL, I think you should be banned for atleast a couple months, never apply for staff again, and have some restrictions about going to into the loaning business again.

    You were, very shady leading up to this mess, banning people from VoE whenever people discussed it. Example: xX3PICREBELXx and then the whole fact you were loaning people as well..

    To top it off, the skype conversations after your ban, well..

    The way I see it, you should stay banned OR be banned for a long time.
     
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    THC, u should get unbanned ur a funny LAD before i got removed from "Kukes Chat" you said some hillarious comments and we need more people like you providing the banta on ecc. Comments like "Dgam, please tell me how dd is coming along lmfao" are great and i'd love to see more like this in global!
    ur banna peal seems pretty good too lots of words cba to read all so copy and pasted it into a text to voice reader while i was on the toilet. sounded good apart from the ladys voice kept messing up. Goodluck with the apeal fam
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