An Appeal For Pistons

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  1. AriusX

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    LWC had piston-destruction issues fixed on Aug 17th https://github.com/Hidendra/LWC/issues/51.

    Pistons don't destroy protected blocks, signs, doors, etc. Not anymore. I suggest a new rank: Engineer. An engineer can place both types of pistons. This will have a twofold effect. First, there will be a list of all the people who can place pistons. If a piston-related greifing problem arises, it won't take long to resolve and identify the guilty party. Second, it will create a new rank, attainable through donation or eco-cash, to raise funds for the server. A rank is only worth having if there's something to get. Pistons add a whole new depth to MC. I'd buy "Engineer" before "Pilot", but that's just me. I prefer the building part of MC to the fighting or exploring parts.

    Obviously, this would involve either spawning slimes or selling slime balls. I'd recommend both, but that's just me.
     
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    I dont think that this would happen, Considering there is still able to push blocks and grief houses with out knowing who did it....
     
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    I really like the sounds of this engineer rank. It gives a new rank + new features.
     
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    If the engineer rank were to be able for the real world, the tags would be messed up. It would be like.. [Myr]Eng][$]Rezonl


    Just an example :p
     
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    @Rezonl- Not really. In fairness, mods have many more ranks than we do and it works fine.

    Secondly, i'd like to state i vouch for this idea. For too long have we not had pistons. The only problem i can really see arising is the lag which pistons might cause.
     
  6. AriusX

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    That is a serious concern. Consider this, donators can use water buckets. By placing a water-generating block, all torches, redstone wire, buttons, and switches can be destroyed. The water-griefer can then remove the water-generator block and vanish. Knowing this, donators can still place water. The reasoning is that if a person invests a donation in the server, they have no reason to grief. I believe that same reasoning is valid for pistons. I do not propose that people be given pistons without, at the minimum, a paid-rank. In truth, I imagine that pistons would be, like water buckets, a donator perk.

    My concern is this. Pistons are a remarkably fun part of MC. I love building hidden doors, moving floors and ceilings, and adventure houses. Currently, the EcoCity server has no means to allow a person access to pistons. Imagine if diamonds were disabled because a diamond pick is the best way to grief. Griefing is a problem, but when you disable fun features of the game, purely to prevent griefing, you've been scared right out of having a good time. Disabling pistons, to prevent griefing, is akin to feeding trolls.
     
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    if this were to happen at all, dont make it a a new rank that just means more ECC dollars.. and we just got skylands so we dont need a new rank
     
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    I'm not particularly attached to a new rank. My concern is the licensing of piston use. Obviously, if every builder is able to place pistons, there will be a significant increase in the instances of piston-related griefing. I believe that pistons can be re-introduced, on a limited basis, to find the correct level of regulation. I know of a bukkit plugin that limits which blocks a piston can manipulate. Maybe pistons need to be limited to only pushing wool or planks. What I'm trying to find is a good way to bring pistons back.

    It could be a purely donator feature. If that were the case, having access to pistons would only create a little "$" after your name. That would limit the amount of nomenclature junk that each person hand. Equally, pistons could be a privilege for mayors and presidents, but only within their own towns. Then, it would be impossible to grief with pistons, as you cannot grief your own town.
     
  9. Pleppieleppie

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    I DO really like this suggestion! But since andrew can check a log where someone set pistons or sticky ones, it would be very easy to figure out who did grief. If a griefer actually would play like 4 weeks just to use piston griefing.