+1 HUGE +1 from me as this is a very common and important vanilla feature that i personally do not think should be locked behind a pay wall.

 

Huge +1 20k represents a very insignificant money sink and there is really no reason for access to be restricted

 

+0 I like that warrior teaches the premise of ECC with economy. Maybe lower it to like 5-10k for the first rank, but I don’t think free nether access is good in the long run

 

+1 No unique reason for having to pay for nether access when 20k is a joke and resident exists.

 

Well, there is the builder bonus, which would easily be used for nether access if we lower it to 10k. Make it 5k and they have extra money.

 

You’re overlooking the point, which is that making nether access into an annoying hassle that costs effectively nothing deters players from joining the server.
Maybe nether access could be folded into resident, to make the progression system make more sense, but at this point it seems simpler to get rid of the barrier.

 

basically this. It has always been like this and there’s no need to change it IMO.
-1

 

+1 I dont want to have to pay for nether access a 3rd time when the server resets in a few months.

 

-1

if anything we should raise the price.

 

1. An economy needs money-sinks and god tools are so cheap now that new players can start making 100k+/h in just a few hours since they first join the server.
2. If they pay some little money to rent a magic tool, they can make 300k+/hour.
3. Nether resources are limited as it is a much smaller world compared to mining and it is only reset once a month.
4. We don't need any more free stuff.

-1

3 stacks of iron ores make the money to pay for the nether rank and that doesn't even take the builder bonus into account. How can it deter players from joining the server when it takes so little to achieve it? An economy server should not give out free stuff to attract players

 

+1 deffo. I think that I think having free excess to the nether but keeping the terminator rank.

 

+1 this needs to happen, we need new players to stay around and we should be proactive about finding ways to do this. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve seen a new player log on and ask if we have the new nether, then spend 30min getting diamond and obsidian, make a portal and ask why they can’t light it:

builder: why can’t I light my portal
staff: portals don’t work here, try /help nether
builder: what is pyro?
staff: it lets you light fires and portals
builder: how do I get the rank?
staff: you can purchase it in /buy
builder: wait I have to pay with usd to light a portal? Wtf??
staff(while making 1mil an hour): this is a hardcore economy
builder promptly exits server and never comes back.

honestly not the first experience anyone should want someone to have on a server.

in regards to the money sink concept. LMFAO
Yeah we need 20k yeeted, that’s the issue for sure.

We absolutely need more free vanilla mechanics

What we don’t need is more magic

+1 again this needs to be fixed

 

@NessXXIII You don’t have to pay with usd to get survivor. I’m confused. You don’t need to light a portal to access the Nether once you have the rank. Just need to type in the command /warp nether. Also, the money sink concept is not about this one in particular, but generally economy should be based around spending and earning, not only earning, hence why OP magic tools should stop being released, new ways to sink money should be added and the server should stop giving out stuff for free. For instance, my suggestion would be making the nether more profitable and increasing the price to rank up to Survivor, to make it match at least the earning power that everybody has nowadays.

 

-1

We are an economy server.

 

Tbh its no longer a hard core eco server its pay to win all the way now so +1 for this suggestion gotta give new players something..

 

Exactly
We need new players to stay
And putting the burden of our inflation issues on to new players is actually silly

 

We won't be making this change at this time.