Denied [All Main Servers Suggestion] Item Frames for ExtCreationsPlus2

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  1. FirstNolan

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
    All Main Servers
    Short title for your suggestion:
    Item Frames for ExtCreationsPlus
    What are you suggesting:
    I'm suggesting that the permission to place Item Frames be added to the feature ExtCreationsPlus2. In my opinion, item frames add a certain design that isn't replicated by anything else, and they're especially useful for player shops to showcase what item is being sold. By having this as a feature you would have to purchase, it would allow only a certain group of users to place them, hopefully eliminating any lag factor.

    EDIT: As Cyber said, possibly have a limit to how many a user can place. (A reasonable number for chest shops (150-200) but nothing over.
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    Adds another reason to buy ExtCreationsPlus2, and adds extra design and functionality to player shops.
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    Andrew a few months ago said that item frames would be enabled with the upgrade to 1.16. If that is no longer in program, I support the idea of minimizing the lag impact of item frames while still allowing them to be placed, by adding them to a feature.
     
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    You do know the reason why item frames and armor stands were removed, right? They are entities, which behave differently from other blocks (they are considered closer to mobs in the code than blocks iirc). Too many of them, especially in one spot, can cause performance issues with a server. We used to be able to place them, but with certain changes to the server, we had to sacrifice them for better performance.

    Don't get me wrong, I want them back so badly and was actually slightly pissed they were removed. They will hopefully be back eventually, but I believe now is not the time, especially when we are getting closer to updating to 1.16. Maybe 1.16 will see them brought back, but for now in 1.15, they won't be brought back.

    I want them back, but -1
     
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    +1 if item frames would be ordinarily enabled with the 1.16 update anyways.
     
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    I did know that they contributed to extreme amounts of lag. Like Ancastal said, they were said to be coming back in the 1.16 update. This idea proposes a possible solution so that not everyone can place them. So in the event that they are to come back, this addition to the ExtCreationsPlus2 feature would act as a quality control (so they won't be spammed). I appreciate the feedback!
     
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    iirc after doing some research as they are entities they are treated as @Jdawger says like mobs etc which can not only cause lag for the server but also client side.

    Maybe if there was a way to control how many you can place in total / how many can be placed in a area then it could work.
     
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    Great idea! Added the limit to the suggestion.
     
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    This will not happen. 1.16 was not the bonanza to performance that people thought it was. Unfortunately, until Minecraft itself has major changes in that regard, this will remain infeasible.
     
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