Accepted [All Main Servers Suggestion] Enable Entity Damage in Vanish (Mining)

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  1. WeirdBuilder

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
    All Main Servers
    Short title for your suggestion:
    Enable Entity Damage in Vanish (Mining)
    What are you suggesting:
    A recent bug report which sought to disable PVP damage had the undesirable secondary effect of also disabling damage dealt to entities in vanish. Most importantly, this affects the privacy and security of private spawners in the mining worlds.

    I suggest that we re-enable damage dealt to entities while in Vanish in the mining world.
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    User's who spend 100's to 1000's+ of USD ought to be able to use their monthly spawner setups in privacy assuming they also purchased investigator. With this current change, it would be incredibly easy for anybody to spend some time flying around the world spamming /near and locate anyone's spawners currently in use, which can eventually lead to griefing and private spawners becoming trolled or openly revealed to the public.

    tl;dr: Many people purchase spawners with the expectation that they would be able to use them in private. Not to say that they shouldn't be discoverable through sheer luck, but that there shouldn't be an incredibly easy method through /near to actively locate them.
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    #1 WeirdBuilder, Jul 25, 2020
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  2. Pab_Jr

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    Either allow to hit mobs in vanish, or at a minimum disable /near so that you cannot search for players spawners. Big +1 on this one!
     
  3. Karin_88

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    +1 for sure! I was unaware this was an issue but it would definitely be nice for players who have /vanish to sit at their spawners in peace and actually be able to deal damage to the mobs.
     
    #3 Karin_88, Jul 25, 2020
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    Massive +1. Without the ability to kill mobs while in vanish in the mining world you are susceptible to trolls who will find your spawner setup and mess with your ability to be able to farm efficiently. Ontop of that the amount that you need to spend in order to get your spawners is already very high, and I know a lot of people would be upset if someone can simply find your spawner because you can no longer farm in vanish.
     
  5. icbomber38

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    +1...I've already had a couple of my expensive spawner setups griefed for no good reason and this would just add to it. please fix asap.
     
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    Ladies and Gentlemen. Friends and Foes... Players and Staff! I feel I must tell you... when I filed that bug report... the sole goal was to solve a true problem! No one and I mean no one, should have to protect themselves from a player murdering them while vanished. That being said... this... this was never what was supposed to happen.

    At the end of the day, we should all be able to use our spawner keys and/or spawners purchased off of others in peace to some extent. If you have spent the money to be able to vanish and have spent a ton of money in game to buy spawners, you should be able to continue with the same level of protection you've always had. Of course, any rando can walk across your spawner some day. Or you might screw up one day and forget to vanish and get /seen'd. But at the end of the day, you've paid for some protection in the form of /vanish. We should be able to use it as we have for at least 7 years and kill some dang mobs. Especially when you consider that a LOT of people bought this as protection in the Nether from other players, where there are Blaze Spawners naturally.

    This is Revanrose6 and I approve this message. I also approve the messages above me. Please... don't let me be the staff member who led us down the path to hell by simply trying to fix what I thought to be a small bug in vanish... Thank you.
     
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    +1 though a rather unfortunately side-effect of resolving another issue. Grinding out of vanish poses too many risks.
     
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    +1 imo this will become a huge trolling issue if it's not resolved
     
    #8 Chundi_Jr, Jul 25, 2020
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    +1 Ditto to what the above have said.
     
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    I believe our vanish plugin has a perms node for bypassing the block. If it is functional, and could be enabled with the world context of only mining worlds, that might work as a "fix"
     
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    Yes
     
  12. FuriuosGeorge

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    No one needs to lead us. It's quite clearly marked at spawn.

    +1 I make some big grinders for myself and others at times. Vanish helps keep that work safe.
     
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    I believe this should now be changed.
    Vanish should not allow you to attack mobs/players in Rising, Nether, End.
    Vanish should allow you to attack mobs/players in Mining.

    If you find it is not working as intended, please file a bug report as it would now be considered a bug.
     
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