Right. It says that in the "Donation Feature Rules" for the "Water/Pyro" donations. The section for Extended Commands is as follows: It doesn't mention that you can't use /near to grief.
This guy is still mad that I destroyed his spawned and he lost the complaint. LOL It's a donation feature for a reason and it's used for what it's used for, finding out where people are. Just accept the loss on this one.
Are you really complaining against the server or are you still just upset that you died at a spawner? I read the complaint and I saw what snd said, it's your own fault for going afk at a spawner that's just a lack of common sense. Besides, there was no intent to kill you, as a matter of fact he tried to save you from being killed. I think it's time for you to put your big boy pants on and realize that it's just a game.
Actually no. He did not try to save me from being killed. In fact, he kept breaking blocks above my head to let more water in. There was no attempt to try to save me from being killed. The fact that this is "just a game" has no relevance on the subject. I was just pointing out the fact that Andrewkm had stated not to abuse donated features to grief, but allows the use of /near to grief. This is fine, however it should be explicitly stated in the rules. The rules of the server are there for a reason. I honestly don't care about the spawner. Destroy all you want. There are hundreds of them to choose from. Though I personally think destroying anything that someone is currently active at is dumb, but to each his own.
The mining world is for everyone to share you have every right to break any blocks that you wish. The section of the rules states that you may not use the water or pyro feature to grief which has nothing to do with the /near command. If you did /near in your town and decided to grief somebody's house while they are there it is grief and you will get banned. If you did /near in the mining world and grieved somebody's house/spawner/etc you will not get banned as griefing IS allowed in the mining world. Hope this cleared things up. Have a nice day
Yes, as I have stated before. The section on water/pyro that I listed on this thread was only for the purpose of showing that you cannot use any donated feature you want to grief. Chocolatecheese1 had stated that you can grief by any means (donated or not), and this is not so. I did not list that clause as to support my position on the use of /near. I love how everyone keeps saying griefing is allowed in the mining world, and I have clearly stated several times that I know that you are allowed to grief there. There is no point to keep reiterating the fact that griefing is allowed in the mining world.
Dixan_Cider Just stop. Seriously, your a jerk (I would say much more, but I'm not a jerk, so...) who always thinks he's right. I admit, I love to argue, but I know when I'm simply wrong. Your just trying to get out of this corner that you've been backed into. Simply accept that you're wrong, and move on.
I am not in any corner. There is nothing wrong with posting or discussing a topic. BTW, your and you're are not interchangeable. On a side note, how does discussing a topic make someone a jerk (and much more)? I have just been stating my opinions on the topic, and supplying only facts on this. If you take this information as a personal insult to your character and cannot handle a discussion, then that is an issue you must resolve on your own.
Also note that I did not name anyone in particular in this thread using the feature discussed. Those who have used it have come to this thread and posted on their own accord. I created the thread to discuss the use of the feature.
More irony, chocolate, you're acting like a jerk by telling someone he's a jerk and then saying you're not a jerk because you'll stop. Just please stop attacking Dixan on what he says.
Well Now that the ad hominem section is over.... 1) using /near to find someone and kill their spawner is not breaking the rules as they are defined currently. It's using a donation feature to zone in on a stationary or semi stationary individual. Totally legal 2) the wild isn't protected so grief not possible. 3) if you don't want to die in the mining world, don't afk and certainly don't afk near something that is a) specifically designed to kill things and b) specifically designed to generate hostile creatures. It's not pvp because you place yourself in a dangerous situation and someone comes by and removes a failsafe. That's like strapping yourself to a bomb and walking around a burning house and then getting pissed at someone for moving a burning piece of house towards you
Crux ^ Spawner destroyers aren't placing gravel water lava etc. They are legally accessing non protected areas and legally destroying something.
I understand where you are coming from. I just want to steer the conversation back on course with my opinion. You had a question about abusing /near to find spawners and greif them.. It was stated, by staff, that andrewkm has made an exception and allows players to use /near to find players to destroy spawners. While not explicitly stated in the rules, you did the right thing asking about it, and it was explained. Done. Next, I was not at the spawner, so I do not know what happened. BUT, if someone tried to kill you, then whether or not they used /near to find you, it is against the rules, and therefor you need to bring it to the staff's attention so they can determine what happened and take appropiate action. Done. Lastly: I disagree with this. You can, and I do, use /near and keep adjusting my direction without spamming the command. I think to argue this, you need to define "spamming", which I believe more than once every sec or two. I think the server can handle me using the command every few seconds. If I used it 2-3 times a second, I think it would be spamming. I don't. When there is a rule list, it may not compromise ALL the rules, because, simply.. there isn;t enough rules to cover every siituation. Some things are simply 'one-offs' or require staff tweaking as the situation needs. The Rule List covers the most common FAQ and situations. Not all. Not possible. Again, I see your point of view, and it is thought out. It just isn't considered accurate with how we define things. Glad you brought it up for clarification instead of raging out, and now that we have that clarification, let's use that knowledge and move on.
This thread it's just well thought out, eloquently worded butt hurtedness because their complaint poste was dismissed. Kuke found no evidence of snd purposely causing his death because snd wouldn't do that and there was none Boom End Of Story about
I respectfully disagree considering the similarity between the hypotheticals proposed in this thread and the complaint itself. The fact that you deny it only serves to hurt your credibility and position
Haha, my credibility, huh? That's a laugh. If you look at the time stamps, you will see that this thread was created before the complaint was dismissed. Nice try though.
Well we all knew it was going to be dismissed the moment it was posted. Snd isn't that kind of person. But I'll stop playing my part in this pedantic back and forth now
