Accepted [VMR Server Suggestion] Increase Payouts for VMR server

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  1. matrix_rep

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
    VMR Server
    Short title for your suggestion:
    Increase Payouts for VMR server
    What are you suggesting:
    I am suggesting you x4 all VMR payouts. Right now for grinding and getting first you get paid 125k. for an entire weeks worth of work. With most magic on the main server you can make that in an hour. Inflation on ECC has caused a need for the VMR server to get buffed. 500k for first place isn't even alot compared to what magic tools make.
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    Recent inflation
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    I don’t think they should increase ecd payout because that’s still good for some players that don’t have magic tools (why play vmr if you have magic tools if all you play vmr for is ecd (except prestige ofc).

    however they should maybe add gc rewards along with the ecd
     
  3. matrix_rep

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    Still making 125k for one week of hard work is pretty rough. Adding a GC is fine as well but keep in mind right now features sell for around 30k per usd
     
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    While I think 4x is slightly excessive, I do agree that VMR payouts should be higher. As Matrix said, Magic tools and inflation have given a lot of players the ability to make 100k+/hour. 125k is sorta chump change now. However, the amount of people playing VMR for money is very slim. It has never been a good source of income on ECC, nor do I think it should be since people can make a setup and leave their alts there all week.

    Ultimately I think doubling the payouts makes a bit more sense. Let me know your thoughts!
     
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    -1 as much as I want this to happen, VMR is dead enough that someone to do minimal work and still get top 5. I'm not going to name their name, but someone placed top top five on the last day last week without playing at all earlier in the week.
     
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    Out of curiosity, do you know how much time they put in on the last day?
     
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    Can't speak to more recent participants/competitions, but as a VMR veteran, 5-8hrs/day is generally expected to remain competitive in any given week.
     
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    4x does seem slightly excessive but when you think about it magic tools have resulted in 4x for the main server. If not more. The amount of work people put in towards it just have more of a reward.
     
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    If the payouts are more, more people will play and this will likely not occur.
     
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    +1 because I don’t believe what Weird said about VMR time requirements in the past to be the case anymore and I also agree with matrix that higher payouts will probably increase activity
     
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    I will add that when payouts were 500k+ for the winner of the week, we still didn't have many players do it, thus why it was lowered to begin with.

    I state this as a way of saying the amount of money won't create long-lasting incentive, and would probably be lowered again in the future.
     
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    +1 seeing as the new economy is so much more inflated with ecd, 125k for 1st place is nothing. Even if the gamemode isnt as active, upping 1st place to something even like 500k would be decent and a low ammount. New money making activities earn much more in the hours players put into VMR to be placed in leaderboard to earn $
     
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    You're not taking into account the larger context of it all. The 625k top prize was with the old economy. Nobody played it shortly prior to reset because there was no reason to put in actual work for 625k when you could afk /isr for millions per week.

    The prizes were reduced in line with the main reset and the currency adjustment. Rightfully so, given the relative value of 625k was a lot higher. Few had star tools at that point, let alone the magic tools of today.

    However now, the 500k top payout given by this suggestion is representative of just a couple of hours with a magic rod. Even if someone logs into VMR for the first time the day of reset and only spends four hours to get first place, the server has come out ahead.
     
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    Maybe not by 4x, but definitely at least 2x what it currently is, players will have more to show for their hard work.
     
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    Sounds good. I'm just afraid ppl with many alts come and take first places instead of ppl tryharding for the prestige. Tho vmr should deserve a better payout.
     
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    +-1 VMR also has two prestige levels as reward. x4 (500k) is too much imho. Server rewards should not be based on magic tools as they are end-game, very expensive tools and not many people have access to a magic tool. 500k is representative of around 16 hours of farming with a Star Pickaxe, yet not everybody has access to a Star Pickaxe, let alone a magic tool. The money that you can make with magic tools must not be taken into consideration.
     
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    Based on @WeirdBuilder's statement regarding hours put into VMR by regular players (multiple 8 hour days), the equivalent of 16 hours of work to the first place player still seems fair to me.

    Disagree with you on "prestige is the reward" though, since imo the rewards should exist to make the game mode desirable by those who already have the prestige to prevent the prestige from becoming "easy".
     
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    Many have tried and failed...

    I would love to see VMR become what it was in the first year. Maybe not ECD bit even raffles specific to VMR... Prizes... events... etc..

    Anyway VMR was never meant to be a major focus for the team. Just a secondary game mode to kill time if you got bored. Prestige was a nice add.
     
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    I agree with everything Shmoo said here. I think doubling it is better than it is and would go along with the recent inflation, and it's still not too much that it'd be at risk of just being lowered later on due to not many people playing or whatever reason.
     
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    The pay-off for vmr is not even remotely worth the amount of hours that have to be put in +1
     
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