[User Complaint] @justanormal7

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  1. Mysticgoli123

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    User has recieved a $100gc on payment plan for 17.5M ECD, we agreed on terms ingame and i was expecting payments to be made starting the following day, The user has not paid anything but have checked /seen and mailed the user ingame a few times with no communication

    Payment chest is at /warp mordor
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    I am unsure why the timestamp is not on this SS, was pulled from minecraft screenshots folder (i doubletapped F2 to take image)
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    I have seen this player rank up, which leads me to believe they can be trusted/have an interest in sticking around with ecc. The player has been on regularly, but has avoided communication. I have checked the Gc code and $92 has been spent.

    Unsure whether posting an image with gc code is a wise move, but upon request can upload said code
     
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    @Mysticgoli123
    Please don't post the GC code SS, that's not needed.
    What would be helpful here is knowing when this agreement was made. Can you post what the SS is called in your screenshots folder? That typically contains the timestamp. Always make sure you double-tap the SS button in order to get the timestamp in the actual SS.
    Otherwise, an approximate date of this screenshot would be appreciated incase we need to look further into it.

    @Justanormal7
    Can you please respond with your side of what's happening here?
    I will wait 48 hours for a response in this case due to knowledge that Justa is currently travelling.
     
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    Here is the timestamp of the saved image

    2024-11-16_14.34.46

    As commented i had double tapped F2 to get timestamped SS, not sure why it hasnt shown on the image though
     
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    Due to the forum outage today, and the holiday, I will be coming back to wrap this up on the 26th.

    Thanks for the patience!
     
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    First of all, thank you @Mysticgoli123 for filing this complaint and providing the needed additional info to assess this properly.

    So this is a very messy situation, because we're all aware of the banter. Those in-game statements do not change how we assess these types of complaints, however, they have changed how I am going to lay out this response.

    At this time, I will not be issuing a ban to @Justanormal7 due to the fact that, by the agreement date provided via the filename, he has until Feb 8, 2025 to fully pay off this debt to @Mysticgoli123.
    I acknowledge that Justa has made no weekly payments towards the 17.5m to date, and there was an expectation that there would be at least some progress towards this by now.
    However, the amount of the weekly payments were never specified in the provided agreement, and we would not typically issue a scamming ban for simply falling behind on the weekly payments (which in this case are not clear) as this course of action usually hurts both parties by essentially resetting the agreement via a ban, appeal and arbitration process.


    So at this point, 1 of 2 potential things are going to happen, based on my understanding of the situation at large:

    1. If a different complaint is filed against Justa in regards to outstanding debts before/on Feb 8, 2025, and that complaint results in a ban: this complaint will automatically be added into that ban reason and this 17.5m owed will accounted for in any future ban appeals. Mystic will be expected to notify staff of any changes, partial or full, to the amount outstanding, so we can amend it to this complaint.

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    2. If, on/after Feb 9, 2025, Justa has not been banned for a different outstanding debt and not repaid this debt in full: Mystic will need to file another complaint about this debt in order to start a potential arbitration or banning process, subject to the facts at that time and adjusted for progress made, if any.


    And to further discuss the situation at large, for anyone else who may have a complaint to bring against Justa:
    -No bans are going to be issued for outstanding debts before a specific agreement's final due date. Mystic will be the only person to receive a roll-in exception for filing a bit too early.
    -Should a debt complaint against Justa result in a ban, at that point, anyone else with an outstanding debt with Justa may file their evidence, regardless of their specific agreement's final due date.

    If anyone with an outstanding debt owed by Justa have questions or wish to discuss this, I am often available in-game and my forum inbox is always open.


    As a final note, we are not sure what exactly happened with the screenshot timestamp here, but we are accepting it in this case because we are aware of the wider situation and Mystic was immediately forthcoming with extra info regarding it.
    This is a general reminder for everyone, not just Mystic, to ensure you take your screenshots right away, as scrolling up to take them will result in the timestamp being too far down to register. Also ensure you're giving a moment for the first screenshot to process and appear at the bottom of your chatbox before taking the second.
    When in doubt, it is always good to make a forum-based contract, which do also require timestamp evidence, but allow a little more certainty in staff knowing around the dates transactions took place should a timestamp issue occur.
     
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