[User Complaint] imSwag__

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  1. merlinrule2

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    Accused Username:
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    Complaint:
    The accused user violated clause 2, 3, 3.1, and potentially clause 4 of section 2 of the rules, and I will discuss this in an organized approach:

    Violation of clause 2: Trolling. The accused came to my town (/warp cirrus) and continually began to make fun and degrade the course of actions (regarding the sale of a star pick) me and my co-owner decided to take and the infrastructure of the town which other members built. He provided no explanation for why he was there, and is not even a member of the town in question, and therefore we can only conclude he was there to cause trouble/stir the pot/bring down others, which arguably is a violation of clause 4: "Be a good sport and a friendly community member". Let it be noted we had no interaction with the accused before this incident, and that he was most likely motivated because we demoted his friend from unofficial co-owner down back to a resident of a town. Why else would anybody be so rude? Furthermore, in an argument today, instead of responding in a civil yet stern manner, he called me names like blind and deaf. This is not being a good sport/community member and quite immature so many levels.

    Violation 3.1: Trespassing. When the accused was confronted for his bad behavior by my co-owner and asked to leave the town of Cirrus, he simply stated "make me". This is a direct violation of clause 3.1, quoting: "If a town owner asks you to leave their region for any reason and you are not a member of the region, you must comply with their request." There is no question here that the accused intended to defy and disregard the rules at this point.

    Violation 3: Harassment. Harassment is defined in the wiki as "any form of action (chat or game play wise) that makes another player feel threatened or otherwise ruins their game play." I put violation 3 last because it is the most recent violation, in which the accused was caught telling members in local chat (one of the members happened to be a resident of Cirrus) that I was a "deaf dumbass that knows nothing about logic". In his slandering of me to whoever was in his local chat at the time, he attempted to ruin my reputation and game play by saying that to other users, and if this doesn't fall under the strict criteria for harassment, surely it will fall under Clause 4, for not being a good sport/community member.
    Evidence:
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    The accused has been reported by other players in the past for trolling.

    https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/user-complaint-imswag_.147015/

    I understand that the first screenshot of violation 3 is not direct and is technically hearsay, but nevertheless, we can provide a time index of around 3:30pm CST to allow staff members to access logs about this slander in local chat if possible. Furthermore, we will continue into investigating whether or not Nutty can provide us a direct screenshot for convenience of the staff.
     
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    Well technically you did ask him to leave and he didn't. You also need timestamps for the screenshots. The user is quite immature under investigation. Let's see what the mods do.
     
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    Timestamps shouldn't be necessary. If you're referring to that one complaint which Fury handled, I believe it was a mistake. Just throwing that out there.
     
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    Regardless of the timestamps, @imSwag__ was still being immature and rude, and rather trollish in a way.
     
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    From what I have seen at the town, there has been a lot of conflict recently for the town because of this. I have seen the user act out before in global, and can see this happening.
     
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    Whats this all about? And these are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS, yet you put them together. @merlinrule2, you've also done your part in this, and if I get punished, you deserve the blame just as much.

    Screenshot 1: We were discussing the value of a star shovel, and Ravingwabbit1 decided to be unwelcome and ask me to leave. Since he was only a member (he was only a member at the time), I didn't think he was serious. I only left when merlinrule2 said that I shouldn't be there. I was only defending my friend @DeltaXCrafter because merlinrule2 decided to kick him out for no apparent reason, when they had a verbal deal. Im friends with delta, and deltas a good person, so I had to stand up for him. And merlin, just to add again- I did leave when you told me to, because you were the owner.

    Screenshot 2: You were telling me that my /Warp NewBury casino was a scam and I was tricking builders, and that just ticked me off. I told you that I only charge 3k/day to host, and you said that was ridiculous. I then told you that /Warp Debt charges 50k/day to host, and you said that "no one visits (warp debt) lol.", so I told you to go bother xx3, and the warp debt people instead, since I actually maintain one of the cheaper-to-host casinos.

    Screenshot 3: Thats kinda true actually. You never took me seriously, and you thought it was amusing to get me mad. I honestly don't know what to say about all this. Honestly, you deserver a much bigger punishment than I do, if I ever get punished for this. I wouldn't provoke anyone without anyone harassing me first, and you pretty much crossed my line on the second screenshot.

    I would file a complaint on you after reading all this, but its a shame I didn't take any screenshots. I get how you do this all now. You flame bait me so that I get mad, then you tease me, so you can post a complaint about me. Merlin should not win. Justice should.
     
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    With all these things you supposedly are saying he did, do you have proof of them? That last one of him slandering, you should report it.
     
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    I don't usually take screenshots @Reincarnated_ , unless if its really serious. I didn't find that a very serious issue at a time, I just got a little ticked off by him. I'll remember to get some proof in the future, if any of this happens again, hopefully not.
     
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    I have personally been effected by @merlinrule2 for unfairly demoting me from Co-Mayor of Cirrus simply because I had offered to help pay off the debt of the town early, since he and @stigarose had an agreement of ten thousand every week for ten weeks in order to gain ownership of said town. We had a verbal agreement where as I would be allowed Co-Mayor of his town so long as I help him pay off the town debt, and I never broke the deal, giving him money whenever he asked. Since I have no proof of him doing so, I have not filed a complaint, but I would have and regret not creating a virtual contract on the forum with him and recommend anyone who does the same in the future to create one, else you will most likely be scammed by said player and or merlin.

    @imSwag__ Is a great player in which I've interacted with many many times. He doesn't scam builders, harass for no reason, or stay when told to leave by the mayor of any towns. He doesn't break rules, and I would know, for I work closely with this player.
     
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    1. Ravingwabbit1 decided to be unwelcome because you were being extremely criticizing and negative, as stated in the original complaint above. He was well within his right to tell you to leave, and as you disregarded his order as an owner of the region you were in, it is trespassing. Furthermore, going to our town and criticizing everything that we do is not standing up for Delta. Those are two completely different things - and you should be ashamed of yourself for using your friend as a shield for your own crime.

    2. I stand by my statement. It is well within anybody's right to have an opinion about other establishments, and as such, I expressed mine. I admit I might've came off as rude at first, and I apologize if there was any misunderstanding, but the simple fact is that you came off with an even greater belligerence than mine, going to the point of name-calling and telling members I am "an asshole who

    3. I never approach people with mean words or thoughts unlike what you did to me in my own town. You disrespected me, my co-owner, the members of my community with your insulting and disgusting logic and thoughts about my town. If I never took you seriously, it's because you've dug a hole so far deep for yourself through your actions that you don't deserve to be taken seriously at this point. You're lying when you say you never provoke anyone - because you came to my town and started this whole thing, and now the consequences have finally caught up with you.

    I demoted you because you were excessively arguing with me and ravingwabbit1, doing dramatic actions (like building an entire underground apartment complex) without the consent of the other co-owners, especially after having had a discussion about a possible apartment complex the night before. For the money that you happened to give me (you gave me $1000 for a total payment of $100000 to pay off the entire town), I actually paid back to you. I had given you warnings before - that only my name was in the contract - and that I could demote you anytime, but your immaturity and obsession with control eventually led to your demotion. I did what every other player on the server would do, and that is demoting a bad, immature, and obsessive co-mayor.

    If anybody wants a testament of how well things are going without Delta, come check out our new expanded underground farm, tree farm, and 2nd apartment complex at /warp cirrus. Also, feel free to ask any members of the town of how well they're doing. Thanks!
     
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    Alright, you don't need to take it to the extreme, let the mods handle this. From my point of view, you have been just as rude to me, and I will not be ashamed of standing up for my friends- that is the right thing to do, and I am proud of standing up for delta. From what I could see at the time, ravingwabbit1 was merely a member, and I simply thought the fact that you were the only owner.

    You were very rude to me about my casino being a scam- and I did not misunderstand that. I took it exactly as you wanted me to take it, which was very harshly. You ticked me off, and it didn't help that one of your little friends decided to tease me even further, which wasn't your fault, but immaturity on your friend's.

    I would never intend to disrespect anyone with the intention of hurting- I was trying to tell you that the town needs a bit of fixing up, and you took it the wrong way. I wouldn't call feedback disgusting logic- I don't think anyone else would. I can speak my thoughts before I can think sometimes, and that has gotten me into trouble before, and I'm sorry if you took my feedback (or disgusting logic as you say) the wrong way.

    I'm sorry for the wrong I have done, but I also would request an apology for you as well, for your flame baiting and such other matters. I do not like fighting in pointless arguments- lets just leave this to the mods to handle.

    @imSwag__
     
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    Firstly, I would gladly be his shield because you have been a terrible host the whole time @merlinrule2

    Also, out of context from my quote, I did not build an apartment without your consent. Just because I have 9 different basement floors (used for cocoa farming) doesn't mean I built an apartment without your consent. @imSwag__, and @_NIAGARA_ Can tell you @merlinrule2 and all viewers of this thread that I @DeltaXCrafter am a responsible, useful, and loyal Co-Mayor.
     
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    @DeltaXCrafter is a responsible, useful, and a loyal Co-Mayor

    And thats the truth
     
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    Screenshot 1- Edited/cropped (can't be used as evidence).
    Screenshot 2- Literally nothing to do with violating section 2, don't know where you got that from.
    Screenshot 3- I could go pm someone "hey so-and-so called you a d-bag" and they never even said it.(can't be used as evidence)

    This is one of the few nice, not trolley users on ECC. The fact that tried to get him warn'd for NOTHING make me lose my hope in humanity.
     
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    Well, he was being quite immature but that is not against the rules. He also called @merlinrule2 deaf and blind which could be offense and is rude. He didn't do much so I wouldn't be suprised if this is dismissed.
     
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    I wouldn't carry that as far as to say that it is harassment, though.
     
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    Right, he is just being a great annoyance with a bit of rudeness.
     
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    Can you all just wait for mods to handle this? It's not that hard, if you want to argue you can do it via PM or profile posts.
     
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    It's not arguing, well not anymore atleast. We are simply talking about what @imSwag__ did in the first place.
     
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    I was going to leave this alone, but more posts to the thread have prompted me to post this.

    Ignorance is not a valid excuse when it comes to breaking server rules. You should've checked that raving was an owner or not. You didn't, and now you've been submitted a complaint on for trespassing.

    I never took to the level of immaturity you've taken this entire time. Anybody who is reading this right now, regardless of rank, user, or anything otherwise: take a look again at the evidence I posted, and ask yourself if what the accused did was truly an accident and not intending to troll at all. He says his disgusting logic was feedback - and yet when raving confronted him about whether or not he was genuine or trying to cause trouble and asked him to leave, he responded like a troublemaker with disgusting logic.

    Again, I hope the staff and whoever else views this actually re-reads the screenshots and the accused's post and sees the obvious trolling going on.

    You said it was an apartment and that you wanted it to sell to bigshot players for water/lava placement. Furthermore, I don't even see how this is relevant anymore.

    1. I don't see why it can't be used as evidence since the rule-breaking took place in chat, and it is a screenshot of the full chat?

    2. If you read my post, it could also fall under section 2, clause 4. Is name calling not trying to flame other people/make them mad, and if you do not accept this, then surely you must agree that that it is not representative of being a good community member.

    3. Here is a screenshot of the accused admitting to saying these things here: http://prntscr.com/ahuuwm

    To the staff:

    You have the accused trying to say justice needs to win over me, apparently. You have the evidence and I have quoted the rules he has broken; the accused trying to turn the tables on me simply needs to file a complaint himself. Also, the accused's friends and Delta will attempt to flood this post with their friend's vouches of how they are all good, nice and happy people. Infact, here is a screenshot of Delta trying to get someone to vouch for them: https://prnt.sc/ahuv6b

    https://prnt.sc/ahuv6b kek

     
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