The new pumpkin prices *Please read*

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  1. SonnyCola

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    Suggestion: Change pumpkins to at least 1.25...

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    Ok. This will probably not change anything but I do beg of you please read this out.

    Pros: People have been complaining about prices being lowered. All of them saying it is too low. In fact it is. Many users donated, and have spent countless hours working on thier own farms. $1 isnt useless but the extra few cents that it sells to the server can mean alot. Typically, i used to get 4k every 10 minutes. Then it dropped to 3k. Now 2k. I do not see the point as I am one of the users who devoted almost everything that that had to thier farm. I put my town as one. I donated for speed for my farm. I put 100s of thousands into axes dirt worledit seeds glowstone and all this good stuff. Now the decisions of the new admins have taken over and made the farming community very frustraited. people say wheat farming is worth it we should just convert to that. But did we donate $60 to the server for wheat? Did we get and spent a ton of money on worldedits just to frm wheat? I think not. Also, not to show any disrespect but the admins who chose the prices do not farm at all. We think (as in the group of farmers) that the opinion is biased and should be changed. We have no proof if it was biased or not. But the fact that we have in game admins who dont touch pumpkins at all and do not look at it from a farmers perspective is outragous. We invested hundreds of thousands into our farms, we cant just go to mining. I have had a few friends who quit already. Others soon. I am making this thread so none of this goes on further. The price of pumpkins have been pushed so low. I feel that the price of pumpkins before was a reward in all the investing people have done into farms. ECC has few veteran players on today. Some will quit if this is not stopped. This not only destroyed pumpkins, but this destroyed many people way of life on ecc, the main reason alot of us come on...

    Cons: Inflation will happen and it does. All because of two things.
    1. Enchanted repairs
    E repairs are the reason so many users are rich. The efficiency 5 axes us farmers use can be nonstop used. But what about those who havent bothered investing irl money in e repairs or good axes? This move did screw them over. Sugarcane grows slowly too. Even though it doesnt need items at all. But with e repairs in the game its easy to get money. There is no challenge now. Meaning inflation can and will happen no matter what. And since the server is attracting more players, there will be more money. That means more ways to stop inflation. Alot of us dread the time that happens.
    2.The server keeps getting larger and larger. More players means more money in the economy. This is basically saying that the bigger the server gets the harder money should be to recieved. The server is being pushed to grow too. This is bad news. whats next? Wheat? Then melon again? Many of us do not know. This was a rather large price change in a matter of time instead of gradually being put through to 1.25 to 1. It is hard to make adjustments and some people cannot handel it.
    Any Other Information: I know kingjames has put the one before me but i came more into detail. I am really fighting for pumpkins to come back. I knoq it doesnt hurt if the farmers do leave but it hurts us ourselves, the players, and without players there cannot be a successful server. The economy is becoming too balanced where residents mining can make as much money as presidents farming.

    Suggested action (this is from my view): Make pumpkin prices go up. Let those who played the game smart an put money into it the right way reap the benefits. Inflation will happen. We cannot avoid it now tht the player database is getting larger and larger. Also, I would really enjoy it if an in game admin who farms is put in so they can see from every viewpoint of the situation. I thank you all for reading this thread. Please dont turn this into a flame war. Lets hope something gets noticed, changed, or reconsidered.
     
  2. AGGERPAKKER

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    i agree with everything in this suggestion, no need to add anything, though a gameadmin that actually farms, would be good, i think the idea of a committee i think would be better consisting of players from all the aspects of ECC both mining farming and some big builders(not the rank] as well. please take what sonny said into consideration.
     
  3. Pellagia

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    Agreed. And I want a MINER in the game admin group. We are not represented! Lol :)
     
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    I aggree 100% on what he saying and not to disrespect the admins but hes right they dont farm and they are just spreading hatred on the farming industry. And most people farm because of the mining world because when you walk into the mining world your followed and killed and they target the builders so their oonly option is to farm the price should atleaast be raised to 1.25 or higher but $1 is not reasonable at all.
     
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    Personally pumpkins should go lower. The farm to mining ratio is still very off and it needs to be balanced.
     
  6. kukelekuuk

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    I am a miner.
    Also, you can still make 20k an hour with pumpkins, this is more than enough and the price won't go up or down anymore unless there is some way people can make a lot more money with it again.
     
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    I think pumpkin prices are way too overpriced they should go down to $.25
     
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    I have to say, NO. The people that want pumpkin prices up are those that 100% rely on pumpkins for money. I have seen what has been going on. Multi-level 200x200 Pumpkin Farming Complexs. People who use those have become insanely rich, above everyone by hundreds of thousands of dollars. Personally, I am sick of it. And then, the people with all the money complain that they can't have the pumpkin prices back too get more money, while others rejoice about the leveled farming prices. Players with giant farms have had their "fun" and now its time for mining and farming to be somewhat balanced again. And also, to people know, I am not comlaining because I dont have or have access to a 200x200 farm, I do have access to a 200x200 farm, but I haven't really ever used it to the extent that I am so much richer thatn everyone else.

    That is one of the main reasons pumpkins were lowered, because people became "obsessed" with their farms. They donated for e repairs and bought towns, just so they could farm. And because so many people have made having a 200x200 farm a neccesity, pumpkin prices were lowered. Its not impossible for those with giant farms to maintain the high income they are used to, it will just take more time and effort.
     
  9. SonnyCola

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    kuke, idk where you get those numbers from. Before i could only made at max 30k an hour when pumpkins weere $2 each. Also, I get that you guys get money from mining and that mainly miners are commenting and that you invest in super good picks, but what if mining was nerfed? how would you mainly deal with that once everybody has a fortune 3 pickaxe and mines?
     
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    ...The amount of fail in this thread...

    I'm sorry, but the game admins don't need to be farmers to know what's good for it... In fact, from the looks of it, it's probably better they aren't farmers. Everyone who farms only farms and doesn't know how much money everything else makes and how over powered pumpkin farming is. Mining doesn't make nearly 15k an hour, yet you guys are saying that's not even enough for pumpkin farms? Look at the big picture please. I don't feel like making a huge post right now. >.>

    Respect the Game Admins and their decisions, they spent a lot of time calculating and thinking about and didn't just throw it in place. If you must complain about prices, bring up actual arguments other than how you don't make enough money anymore when in reality you make way more than enough and more than everyone else.

    Mining still makes less money than farming, that's why the prices were up for a little while... Then they went back down. And everyone already does have a fortune III pickaxe.
     
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    I got those numbers from AGGERPAKKER, someone who farms all the time.
     
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    you know wewin is a full miner and never ever will farm...
     
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    lol us miners dont rlly get anything for mining, i was mining for 5 hours yesterday, got around... $100 dollars tops.
    Mining is no where near the prices of farming and that is why the admins are fixing the prices, making it a "little" more balanced, if you saw it from our eyes you would see that we (miners) need to get money to, we shouldn't have to rely on farming just to get money, we should be able to do what we like and still get some money.
     
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    Since you have already made the point that you are a die hard pumpkin farmer. Let me enlighten you about a residents view on both farming and mining.

    Mining

    Mining is generally the first thing you start to do when you join the server. Then you use the money to buy better picks and more material, maybe even a plot. Even after I left the wild and joined a town. I still mined for money. Even though many people told me to farm. Then I finally heeded to their advice and began to use the local poking farm. I quickly noticed the difference and began to farm poplins an plant wheat for Tkick. I eventually got resident with alittle help and continued with pumpkin farming. Then I lived in SV and then dual housing in machupicchu and then to my current residence(s) in SV and tweenleaf. In tweenleaf, we only have a melon farm and a semi auto wheat + I am working on a sugarcane farm as I type this. Most of this wa funded by my drive to mine.

    Farming​


    Farming has always been a rich mans game. Massive pumpkin farms dominate the landscape. If you count all the farms from the live map in comparison to the regular city, you may see why farming has been nerfed. If a guy who was actually from PMC showed up and reviewed the server, he or she would downgrade us for being "a pumpkin server." ecc would lose a place in the top 10. Now, even without PMC, builders would be a bit discouraged. I have seen several other servers fall to the pumpkin drug. They lose popularity with newcomers and fall in the ratings, eventually imploding on themselves and losing all fan base. This may be worse case but it is never the less possible.

    My Two Cents​


    Farming in general should be equal to mining. Period and end of story.
     
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    I am against this petitiOn!
    The new upadate allows much easier profit for new players, and balances different types of farming!
     
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    JUST INCREESE MINING PRICES INSTED OF MAKEIN PUMPKINS $0.01
     
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    Ya, keep pumpkins $1 and make coal $2 :D :D
     
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    Why dont u just make pumpkins 1.50and jus increase like diamonds to 120 and iron to like 12 instead of making pumpkins 1.00.alot of players like me spaent alot of money and time to build a giant pumpkin farm to earn money om but nowvthe farms usage are down by like 30% and now our pumpkin farms are so much less efficient :evil: .so i was hoping if u could increase the prices of pumpkins back to 1.50 please please please pleaae.... :D :D :D :D :D
     
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    Yay I solved the prob


    If u agree say I
     
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    but your banned
    NO ONE LIKES YOU!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:
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