Survival Games Overhaul

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  1. brandbauer

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    Survival Games Overhaul.

    General information you should know before hand:
    Please read before jumping to conclusions.
    Attack Damage:
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    Armor Protection:
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    Attack Damage with Armor Protection:
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    EcoCityCraft 4-Tier Survival Games Chest System:
    Tier 1: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Wood Sword, 268, 1
    • Leather Helmet, 298, 1
    • Leather Chestplate, 299, 1
    • Leather Leggings, 300, 1
    • Leather Boots, 301, 1
    • Raw Porkchop, 319, 3
    • Raw Fish, 349,3
    • Apple, 260, 3
    • Arrow, 262, 5
    • Stick, 280, 1
    • String, 287, 1
    Tier 2: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Wood Sword, 268, 1
    • Gold Helmet, 314, 1
    • Gold Chestplate, 315, 1
    • Gold Leggings, 316, 1
    • Gold Boots, 317, 1
    • Cooked Porkchop, 320, 3
    • Bowl, 281, 4
    • Apple, 260, 2
    • Raw Beef, 363, 4
    • Steak, 364, 2
    • Raw Chicken, 365, 4
    • Cooked Chicken, 366, 2
    • Mushroom Soup, 282, 1
    Tier 3: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Gold Sword, 283, 1
    • Iron Helmet, 306, 1
    • Iron Chestplate, 307, 1
    • Iron Leggings, 308, 1
    • Iron Boots, 309, 1
    • Golden Apple, 322, 2
    Tier 4: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Iron Sword, 267, 1
    Proposed 4-Tier Survival Games Chest System:
    Tier 1: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Wood Sword, 268, 1
    • Leather Helmet, 298, 1
    • Leather Chestplate, 299, 1
    • Leather Leggings, 300, 1
    • Leather Boots, 301, 1
    • Raw Porkchop, 319,3
    • Raw Fish, 349,3
    • Raw Beef, 363, 3
    • Raw Chicken, 365, 3
    • Bowl, 281, 3
    • Feather, 288, 3
    Tier 2: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Stone Sword, 272, 1
    • Gold Helmet, 314, 1
    • Gold Chestplate, 315, 1
    • Gold Leggings, 316, 1
    • Gold Boots, 317, 1
    • String, 287,1
    • Apple, 260,3
    • Carrot, 391, 3
    • Bread, 297, 1
    • Mushroom Soup, 282, 1
    • Gold Ingot, 266, 1
    Tier 3: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Fishing Rod, 346, 1
    • Bow, 262, 1
    • Chain Helmet, 302, 1
    • Chain Chestplate, 303, 1
    • Chain Leggings, 304, 1
    • Chain Boots, 305, 1
    • Cooked Porkchop, 320, 2
    • Cooked Fish, 350, 2
    • Steak, 364, 2
    • Cooked Chicken, 366, 2
    • Golden Apple, 322, 1
    • Golden Carrot 396, 1
    • Arrow, 262, 3
    • Flint, 318, 1
    Tier 4: (Item), (Item ID), (Quantity)
    • Iron Helmet, 306, 1
    • Iron Chestplate, 307, 1
    • Iron Leggings, 308, 1
    • Iron Boots, 309, 1
    • Iron Ingot, 265, 1
    • Flint and Steel, 259, 1
    • Boat, 333, 1
    • Golden Apple, 322, 3
    • Golden Carrot 396, 3
    Kits Now (No Armor) :
    • Complete Control: 3.5 + 0.5 hearts from burn = 4 hearts.
    • Complete Control and Strength 2: 9.1 + 0.5 hearts from burn = 9.6 hearts.
    • Make It Quick: 4.25 hearts.
    • Make It Quick and Strength 2: 11.05 hearts.
    Kit Changes:
    • Buffer: Strength 2 changed to Strength 1.
    Kits After (No Armor):
    • Complete Control: 3.5 + 0.5 heart from burn = 4 hearts.
    • Complete Control and Strength 1: 4.55 + 0.5 heart from burn = 5.05 hearts.
    • Make It Quick: 4.25 hearts.
    • Make It Quick and Strength 1: 5.525 hearts.
    Overall Survival Games Changes:
    • Include 1 crafting table at spawn in each survival games arena.
    • Include 3-4 crafting tables that are easily reachable around each entire survival games arena.
    • Include 2 enchanting tables that are hard to find/get to in each survival games arena.
    • Include 30-50 chests per survival games arena, depending on size.
    • Add gold ingots.
    • Add iron ingots.
    • Add stone swords.
    • Add chain armor.
    • Add carrots.
    • Add golden carrots.
    • Add bread.
    • Add cooked fish.
    • Add bows.
    • Add feathers.
    • Add fishing rods.
    • Add flint.
    • Add flint and steel.
    • Remove gold swords.
    • Remove iron swords.
    Reason:
    These changes will create two new aspects of the game. Crafting and Enchanting will not call for a harder game when it comes to PvP'ing, but a harder game when it comes to managing your time correctly. This will differentiate many things and have users make harder decisions than before.

    Other Information:
    All information stated above.

    Link to this plugin:
    We already have this plugin, it is just a matter of changes.


    Please leave any suggestions, comments, or concerns below. I will try to address everyone.
     
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    #1 brandbauer, Feb 22, 2014
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  2. WreckitRalphed

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    Sharp 5 can 1 hit. No.
     
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    Only if you have no armor.
     
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    I'm just gonna be blunt here, this is terrible. Sharpness 5 sword? Really...? Come on, don't make kits more powerful, make them weaker. Make it more an even fight. I honestly cannot determine your reasoning behind this suggestion at all.

    You are saying to make it more fair by adding diamond swords, yet your making kits more powerful? That just doesn't make sense.
     
    #4 alpert3925, Feb 22, 2014
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    No, sharp 5 is like have a sharpness 3 diamond sword. That is terrible.
     
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    If you look at how the damage plays out, sharpness 5 for a stone sword is only 0.25 hearts more than a diamond sword with nothing on it.

    Also, I am making kits less powerful by changing strength 2 to strength 1 in the kit Buffer.
     
    #6 brandbauer, Feb 22, 2014
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    I disagree with everything highlighted in green. These are some of my reasons.

    Many of us bought Kit Buffer for the strength2 potion which gave us a huge advantage. Changing it to strength1 will prevent more people from buying it as it is less effective with the new SG damage fixes.

    How will people get exp for enchanting tables?

    People can easily remember where all the chests are. Making it randomized is more fair.

    Chain armor gives the same protection as gold armor. Whats the point.
     
    #7 Lee1104, Feb 22, 2014
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    It is still a 1 hit kill... Everyone was complaining about buffer being 1 hit and it is much, much better now that it isn't.

    I honestly don't see what the purpose of all this is.
     
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    You can gain experience by fishing.

    Chain armor is not the same protection as gold armor. It is more protective, therefore differentiating the entire aspect of armor.
     
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    It is only a one hit kill if you have no armor.
     
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    What about this new thing called a strength potion?
     
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    The only thing I do indeed like about the change is adding stone swords, would be nice to get rid of gold and add stone as gold does the same as wood.
     
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    There is no difference between gold and chain armor. Maybe for fire aspect, but with regular swords there isn't.
     
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    If you want to know, read the suggestion. I went into further depth and it does show how strength plays out. It is not a one hit kill unless you have no armor.
     
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    I have always been for that. But I'm ignoring that aspect of this because there is already a large suggestion discussing that.
     
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    This could be a problem, as you can take exp levels over between worlds. Meaning with 1.8, this could become very over powered.
     
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    Blowtube you are talking with a person who has years of experience with pvp, sharpness doesn't multiply the damage of a weapon, it just adds damage, at sharp 5 a wood sword can 1 hit. The way to get a good estimate of what type of damage a sharpness sword does compared to diamond is subtract 1 level of sharpness by the downgrading of the material, wood sword sharp 5 = diamond sword sharp 2.
     
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    There is.

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    Hopefully there is somehow a way to make experience stay in the Survival Games.
     
    #19 brandbauer, Feb 22, 2014
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    You never talked about the damage a diamond sword or the Sharp 5 MIQ would do with a strength 2 potion. Only with a strength 1. Your are assuming that it does indeed get changed.