Ok so i'm going to start this thread by collaborating my ideas into a simple “suggestion” to simplify the situation and make it more easy to understand my suggestion at a glance Minecraft Name: xOSneakyNinjaOx Suggestion: Improve and be less lenient on rule breakers Reason: Well for one it is starting to make this server at a glance have a bad community Any Other Information: Full arguement is located below Link To This Plugin: No plugin needed. I want to first start off by saying that I do not like complaining about this server, it is far by the best Minecraft server that is out but only one problem stands out which is certain people of the community. I do not like “telling” you how to run the server and that is not my objective whilst writing this, I am simply getting more and more annoyed at what is happening to the community and how lenient the rules can be. Let’s start this argument off by posting a few examples that I have seen and users simply getting away without proper punishment even though a complaint has been filed against them. I should also state that these quotes were thrown out by “respectable” people of the community. 1. “yeah f*** you f***ing loner ****. Hope you're happy christmas is f***ed. You little gay c***” Obviously this sentence can be taken in a very offensive way, for example using the word “gay” in a derogatory terms is highly offensive and like i said it does not align with the rules on the ECC wiki. 2. user spamming multiple people with the word “dumbass” although the word may not seem highly offensive but under the circumstances as he has spammed it to more than 1 person it definitely does not align with ECC rules. Also in the same complaint the same user had said “fuck ur not smarter than us to think cause your mom told u” after all the evidence this user was simply given a warning. As you can see here are only 2 examples of users getting away without punishment that is justified to the actions. It’s not just bad language that is making this servers community look like a bunch of 2 year olds, it is also the constant trolling that goes on in chat which yet again stated in the rules not allowed, let’s take for example “bringing up subjects which will just cause an argument” of course everybody deserves their own opinion but saying stuff in chat such as “What’s the point in rules” and “ECC shouldn’t have rules” both of these are only a small example of opinions that will only cause arguments and as you are probably aware a small thing like this blows up in ECC to massive amounts of swearing, users hating each other, and a all round bad community. I’m not here to give examples of things that go on as you are very much aware and all evidence is either on the forums or on the chat logs. Now let’s discuss the impact and first opinions that new players feel when joining the server. when a new player joins you’d expect him to feel welcome and in a friendly environment but when someones first experience is a mass arguement with high amounts of bad language of course the new player will not like it. Also let’s take Ventrilo for example, not very often a new player joins ventrilo but when they do they are usually classed as a 2nd class citizen, a quick example of this is a new user had joined ventrilo and was asking questions and simply got a response saying “f*** off, why does noone ever read the rules” I understand that it can be very hard to monitor what goes on in ventrilo as it is voice communication but nethertheless there were mods in the channel (maybe AFK) but nothing was done, the new user simply logged out of ventrilo before I could help. Like I have mentioned previously most of these incidents involve a small amount of players but the sadness in this is the players are well known in the community. many users have been banned well over 10x over the same offenses, simply warning the user to “read the rules” isn't enough, it's obvious that they have not learnt from mistakes, users simply carry on with the bad behavior as they know what will happen it’s a repetitive process of 1. user breaks rules bad enough for a ban. 2. user posts a ban appeal. 3. moderator unbans player or temp bans for a small amount of time. With a repetitive process like this no wonder users break the rules as they know because they have donated they will be unbanned, it seems like the only thing the server is strict on is x-raying which is understandable. I’m going to end this here, I may add a few more paragraphs here but I think i have made my point clear, I understand that I probably will get banned for posting this but it is worth the risk as I am doing this on behalf of many other ECC players. thanks for reading. **EDIT 1** when a new users joins, and gets trolled, he will most likely leave, or troll back to hard and get banned = sever crumbles -xOSneakyNinjaOx
well i see how this can be true but its like you said your a new player mabey you dont know some rules getting a warning is good for new players now with res+ swaering should be a ban not a warning cause res+ should have read the rules i do see sometimes people getting off with warnings is super annoying especialy when they did something worth a ban
Exactly my point , some users have been banned 10s of times and simply get away with it. I'm not stopping until something changes even if I do get banned.
well i see how this can be true but its like you said your a new player mabey you dont know some rules getting a warning is good for new players now with res+ swaering should be a ban not a warning cause res+ should have read the rules i do see sometimes people getting off with warnings is super annoying especialy when they did something worth a banExactly my point , some users have been banned 10s of times and simply get away with it. I'm not stopping until something changes even if I do get banned.exactly also things like spamming i have been banned for it but it was a auto bot mistake so if your ban by mistake its understandable i have also seen ppl get away with alot of rule breaking untill a mod finally decides to perma ban them (this takes like 10 bans) i think after 5bans you should be perma ban and depending on what you did
I completely agree with this. The main reason i quit was because of the immaturity in users these days. Honestly this needs to be dealt with, new users will not stay if they join and see trolling going on in the community. They will see the server as a trollish community, and will move on to other servers. Also on a side not locking chest in others towns, for trolling purposes, should be illegal. What shrinkwrap did by stealing and locking others stuff is just downright disrespectful, and in my opinion shouldn't be tolerated.
I like this, It seems that arguments are less reasonable and more of flame wars, and some people act like they're 3. ECC must keep respect and kindness within our chat.
Same here veng, that is the reason why I am becoming inactive and I know many other players feel the same