[Suggestion] Temp Ban Bails!

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  1. WreckitRalphed

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    Suggestion: Temp Ban Bails

    Reason: There have been times when I really needed to be un banned from my temp ban (once or twice) and I had to actually wait it out. Putting a bail of 100k - 500k (Set the prices should be high) would be taken out of the players balance and their temp ban time would be lifted. EDIT: Stop thinking that this makes richer players not have to abide the rules. Rich people get advantages, this can be one of them. The cases that this would apply on are MINOR meaning that it is not every felony possible.

    EDIT2: LOL at all the people whining that this makes rich people get more benefits, BEING RICH ON AN ECONOMY SERVER SHOULD GIVE BONUSES, AND RICH PEOPLE WOULDN'T SPEND 500k TO SPAM, TRUST ME. Just cause your poor and wouldn't be able to afford it doesn't mean that it shouldn't be implemented.
    Any Other Information: This would take tons of money out of the economy (which is needed) and can be used for minor temp bans such as language or dis respect. Players may have the option to wait out their bans or just have X amount of eco dollars taken out of their balances. Of course if the felony is major such as grief / hacks then there will be no bail but for minor crimes, the richer folk of ecc would rather just pay some money to continue playing.

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    i have to +1 and -1 this

    first, +1 for the idea of taking money out of the economy. exp could slowly become less expensive, and cause less economic problems in the near future.

    -1 because that would involve changing rules, which would have to get approved by skylexia AND andrewkm, since skylexia writes the rules.

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  3. williamannin

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    -1 because rich players will think they can do anything and not care because they can get unbanned as soon as a ban appeal is accepted.
     
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  4. WreckitRalphed

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    If you actually read, it says for minor crimes such as language or dis respect.
     
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    It is still a violation of the rules, regardless of the severity. Yes, I did read :p
    In addition, minor crimes do not have that long of a tempban(1-6 hours)
     
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    Um I got 48 hours for spamming 4 times.
     
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    Real simple way to solve this problem.

    Do.Not.Break.The.Rules.
     
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    It was an accident. This kind of stuff happens thats why this should be implemented so richer people instead of waiting can use some of their earned money
     
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    The point is, one should learn from his/her mistakes. Being able to buy a way out of punishment is not only unfair, but useless in teaching a lesson.
     
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    Good idea.
     
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    No. If they did this it would show players that breaking the rules is okay as long as they have a certain amount of money.
     
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    Let's see we have a choice here. A. Let rich people get their way or B. Keep the server in order. hmm I wonder
     
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    While this would take money out of the economy, I have to disagree for a few reasons.

    This would inevitability lead to "richer" players thinking that the rules don't apply to them, because they can just get off with a fine.

    Moreso, it seems an impossible idea to practice. Either GA's or Andrew would have to be the one to process the application, and for most tempbans (for minor offenses), it just wouldn't be practical. Why appeal a 6 hour tempban and wait 5 hours for that to be handled?

    You mention you were tempbanned for 48 hours as a result of spamming... to get a tempban that long it almost certainly wouldn't have been your first offense...

    In my opinion, the community gains more from teaching people to play by the rules than any amount of money being taken out of the economy.
     
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    If it is so "minor" to require a tempban. Serve it.

    As was said before, don't break the rules. The penalties are lax as it is. No reason in encourage rule breaking.
     
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    Absolutely not. Who defines minor? Minor could be spamming, disrespect, etc. So if I have some cash hanging around, I'm allowed to break a rule (spam all of chat?). Based on what you're saying, you can buy "rule-breaks" with ECD. I don't think this will ever happen.
     
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    Well don't you think spamming and language is considered minor? Now think to yourself, would you rather spend that money on "rule-breaks" or to something more productive. This is for the occasions for when you need to get un banned, as in my case I got banned for 48 days for spam and my cousin came over who I don't see to often and we couldn't play ECC together the entire time and of course I didn't get un banned, not even a thought towards it. I would have rather spent eco dollars to enjoy myself irl.
     
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    Ok obviously you're not getting what i'm putting out. Sometimes you don't want to wait 48 hours just to play the game so you spend some eco dollars to get your ban lifted. People don't break rules on purpose duh... it happens. This doesn't encourage rule breaking cause I don't think people really wanna spent 500k to curse once or spam once. Think please.
     
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    As said, it's to hard to define "minor". Spamming chat with 30 lines+ or 4 lines? Language can turn into harassment/swearing which is not tolerated on ECC whatsoever at all. Normally harassment is a harsh ban.

    People that are rich enough don't care where they spend their $$$ on. If their bored and they find "trolling" fun, they would go ahead and take the ban/instantly get unbanned.
    Need or want? I'd want to be unbanned whenever I'm banned. Rarely their is a real reason to need an unban.

    Why did you spam in the first place?
    I'm sure you would but it doesn't work that way.

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    Who said you had to? Just follow the rules like everyone else and you won't have to.

    Doesn't work like that. You get in trouble, you face the consequences. //end of discussion
    Actually, you can argue against that. You understand the rules as you agree to reading them upon your resident application. You realize that their are consequences if you do not follow them. Yet you STILL break them? I believe in second chances but if you break it a second,third, fourth, fifth,sixth time, then you obviously don't belong in this community.
    Some people in the community may take this opportunity to use it as a "attention-seeking" pass. Or they simply want to troll everyone. We can't play the "let's hope" game. ECC has strong values of keeping a safe/clean/all ages environment.
    You first please.
     
  19. Emau

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    I do.
    I'm sure you don't want to wait. Hence why it is a ban and not a reward. You shoudl be using that time to think about what you did wrong and how to prevent it from happening again. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." By buying your way back, it not only sends the wrong message, but you dont get the same impact.
    Hasn't happened to me once. Not even a single complaint/warning.

    If it was spamming just once, you would have been warned and it would have stopped. But something, whether it be your past actions, an escalation of the current issue, or something else (I do not know the particulars), it resulted in not only a kick, or a tempbam of 3 hours, but a tempban of 48 hours. This appears to me, to be more than 'an accident' and judging by the 'punishment', someone else thought so as well.
    Right back at ya. :)
     
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    Im not gonna argue with you if you go up to the top you'll read that just cause your poor and can't afford any of this then obviously you wouldn't want it. I am going to guess you're poor? Anyhow I needed to be un banned from a temp ban thus the reason I made this. All i'm gonna say, WHY WOULD A RICH PERSON WANT TO SPEND 500k TO SPAM OR CURSE. There I made it nice and big so you can read it. Learn the value of 500k then say that people would have no problem spending it.
     
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