[Suggestion] /Recipe

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by LJKAzrael, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. LJKAzrael

    LJKAzrael Freelancer | Ikigai
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2015
    Messages:
    804
    Trophy Points:
    30,510
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +372
    Minecraft Name:
    @LJKAzrael

    Suggestion:
    The new recipe book makes /recipe relatively obsolete. For those who had access to /recipe, unlock all recipes in the recipe book.

    Reason:
    I don't want to have to craft everything to have my /recipe feature back, albeit in a different form.

    Any Other Information:
    No

    Link To This Plugin/Is this a custom addition?:
    No
     
  2. Ozzyblack21

    Ozzyblack21 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    EcoLeader ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2012
    Messages:
    953
    Trophy Points:
    73,660
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +12,441
    I never really used /recipe, but I think this would be a great thing to happen as I will probably use it more now, knowing it's always in my inventory.

    So a
    +1 from me!
     
    #2 Ozzyblack21, Jun 17, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2017
  3. Mission001

    Mission001 Ex-EcoLegend HⱻặĐHůƞẗǝɍ
    ECC Sponsor President ⛰️⛰️ Ex-EcoLegend ⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️ Prestige ⭐ III ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2011
    Messages:
    5,563
    Trophy Points:
    102,160
    Gender:
    Male
    EcoDollars:
    $495
    Ratings:
    +6,485
    +1

    ALTHOUGH
    I doubt most people got that feature for recipe, i wouldnt mind this addition of all recipe's being unlocked in the recipe book be added to Patron Rank.
    As Patron Rank is a bit of a umbrella feature which does lots of stuff, another little perk to be added would be a nice touch and maybe another reason for people to donate for a bunch of goodies that arent really worth a full feature.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • List
  4. 314

    314 Irrational Moderator, former ServerAdmin
    SuperMod EcoLegend ⛰️⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Prestige ⭐ VI ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2014
    Messages:
    7,050
    Trophy Points:
    97,160
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +4,917
    Okay, I am confused.

    First you are saying that the recipe book should replace /recipe, then you suddenly argue against your own proposal by pointing out that it takes an absurd amount of time to unlock all recipes to make the book a viable alternative?
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • List
  5. Ozzyblack21

    Ozzyblack21 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    EcoLeader ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2012
    Messages:
    953
    Trophy Points:
    73,660
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +12,441
    Here comes 314 tearing our statements into shreads ;~;
     
  6. Ladyvamptress

    Ladyvamptress Bloodlust Ex-EcoLegend
    ECC Sponsor Builder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLegend ⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️ Prestige ⭐ III ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2014
    Messages:
    2,253
    Trophy Points:
    81,160
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +3,184
    I think you looked too far into it Pi. I think what this is suggesting is to do away with /recipe, but people who bought the feature that had access to /recipe, shouldn't have to craft stuff before it shows up in the recipe book.

    Btw +1 if that is what this is suggestion as that's how I took it.
     
  7. Nicit6

    Nicit6 N6
    Mayor ⛰️⛰️ Ex-EcoLegend ⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️ Prestige ⭐ II ⭐ Gameplay Architect Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2013
    Messages:
    9,916
    Trophy Points:
    102,160
    Ratings:
    +8,061
    Just give us a limited portion of the new recipe - ie allow us to edit our own recipe books by command. Seems like the best way to handle it honestly although I imagine a plugin to do it wouldn't be all that hard.
     
  8. MatthewStevenGo

    MatthewStevenGo Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Resident ⚒️

    Joined:
    May 8, 2015
    Messages:
    773
    Trophy Points:
    25,410
    Gender:
    Male
    EcoDollars:
    $9,469
    Ratings:
    +572
    +1 So that the beginners of playing Minecraft will find it easy how to craft with these commands.
     
  9. 314

    314 Irrational Moderator, former ServerAdmin
    SuperMod EcoLegend ⛰️⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Prestige ⭐ VI ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2014
    Messages:
    7,050
    Trophy Points:
    97,160
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +4,917
    If that is how the suggestion is meant to be interpreted, the 'reason' should instead be mentioned in the 'any other information' because using it as a reason does imply a contradiction in my opinion.

    Regarding this interpretation of the suggestion:

    I'd like to know why it should be removed in the first place. /recipe is part of a larger plugin and would therefore not be removed from code, only the permission would be removed. Why, though? Even if we added a full recipe book, "/recipe itemname" is still a quick way to find a specific item's recipe. Then again, maybe that's just my opinion because I generally prefer simple (and efficient) console commands over a GUI.

    Also, I'd need a 1.12 texture pack. The 1.11 textures I use hide the recipe book, so I basically have to guess where the book button is located. That problem don't exist with /recipe, either.
     
  10. LJKAzrael

    LJKAzrael Freelancer | Ikigai
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2015
    Messages:
    804
    Trophy Points:
    30,510
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +372
    I did /recipe it no longer worked. I found some shitty book that was similar. I assumed that /recipe was removed because of the book. If it just out of commission because of bugs, I'll welcome it back.

    Still wouldn't mind getting everything in the book unlocked though.
     
  11. Ladyvamptress

    Ladyvamptress Bloodlust Ex-EcoLegend
    ECC Sponsor Builder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLegend ⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️ Prestige ⭐ III ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2014
    Messages:
    2,253
    Trophy Points:
    81,160
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +3,184
    From my point of view...
    Right now people who once had access to /recipe can't use it. I'm not sure what happened, but it seems to be broken or something conflicting with it. Currently I have to google how to make things and it takes FOREVER for web pages to load while I'm on MC. It's a huge inconvenience for me, so when I seen this suggestion I thought that it was a great idea since MC's latest updated added the recipe book... this is the perfect time to build off of that. I mean it's broken now, I assume it would take some work to fix it, I think that time would be better invested in using MC's new features. This is just my opinion tho.
     
  12. Expipiplusone

    Expipiplusone Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,592
    Trophy Points:
    37,590
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +778
    He wasn't suggesting or arguing that /recipe should be removed: /recipe has been removed already (and must stay so, I'm afraid). He started from this matter-of-fact premise and then argued that those who used to have /recipe should now have a recipe book already populated with all recipes (instead of having to manually craft everything at least once in order to populate it manually).

    Which makes total sense, under this light, so +100.

    About texture packs: do I understand correctly that you are running a 1.12 client with 1.11 texture packs? May I ask... why?
     
  13. 314

    314 Irrational Moderator, former ServerAdmin
    SuperMod EcoLegend ⛰️⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Prestige ⭐ VI ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2014
    Messages:
    7,050
    Trophy Points:
    97,160
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +4,917
    Thank you for clarifying, I wasn't aware of the fact that /recipe is no longer available. In that case I like this suggestion.


    I use a custom mix of three texture packs and simply don't have enough time to add a pack with good 1.12 textures to it.
     
  14. Expipiplusone

    Expipiplusone Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,592
    Trophy Points:
    37,590
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +778
    Oh, I see.
    Could you set it to just use the default 1.12 textures whenever a fancy texture is not found? Or it's more time consuming than it sounds?
     
  15. 314

    314 Irrational Moderator, former ServerAdmin
    SuperMod EcoLegend ⛰️⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Prestige ⭐ VI ⭐ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2014
    Messages:
    7,050
    Trophy Points:
    97,160
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +4,917
    That's what Minecraft already does... however, it finds the inventory texture from 1.11.2, even though it doesn't include a recipe book button.
     
  16. LJKAzrael

    LJKAzrael Freelancer | Ikigai
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2015
    Messages:
    804
    Trophy Points:
    30,510
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +372
    Bump. /recipe and/or a fully unlocked recipe book pls
     
  17. JamieSinn

    JamieSinn Retired Lead Administrator/Developer
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Messages:
    5,517
    Trophy Points:
    78,090
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +4,588
    /recipe is disabled due to a duplication exploit, and won't be added back.
     
  18. Nicit6

    Nicit6 N6
    Mayor ⛰️⛰️ Ex-EcoLegend ⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️ Prestige ⭐ II ⭐ Gameplay Architect Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2013
    Messages:
    9,916
    Trophy Points:
    102,160
    Ratings:
    +8,061
    You could just scrap essentials old recipe functionality. The vanilla command would be cool, although probably would want to put some limits on it through ess.
     
  19. Expipiplusone

    Expipiplusone Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,592
    Trophy Points:
    37,590
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +778
    Because of this, the suggestion was changed: [EDIT: nope]
    I think this can be implemented quite easily with the command(*) /recipe give <player> *
    • automatically, once and for all, whenever a player purchases the feature;
    • manually (I guess?), once and for all, for all the players who already purchased the feature before this suggestion was implemented.
    (*) I mean the vanilla command: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/17w13a
     
    #19 Expipiplusone, Jun 30, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2017
  20. soyuzpixel

    soyuzpixel Builder
    Builder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2015
    Messages:
    267
    Trophy Points:
    14,710
    Gender:
    Male
    EcoDollars:
    $0
    Ratings:
    +826
    torn into 314 pieces in 3.14 seconds