Denied [Suggestion]Put the cussing rule back to the way it was

+1.
Immature kids like me can't be exposed to this stuff.

 

I don't think it should be put back the way it was because everyone was uptight about everything but clearly something needs to be done that screen is pretty rediculous.

 

We use the same texture pack!!+1 btw

 

This is the current rule. What changed?

 

Swearing is fine when it's purely contextual and not overused, these people are clearly not using it how they should be and are swearing "just cus" it's not a good attitude to have for these people and it ruins chat for others but when it's very casual not very often swearing that's contextual I feel like it's fine +0

 

Why don't we just make a filter?

 

I have said it before, and I will say it again: allowing swearing "within reason" on a Minecraft server is like handing a loaded gun to a 4-year-old and saying "use your better judgment."

 

Yes I agree with this comparison.

In fact J walking across the street is like joining a terrorist organization.

Eating meat is like murdering little children freely!

Stepping on a spider is like bashing a homeless man with a refrigerator!

Let's all compare things to non relevant extremes!

Spoiler

 

I don't even know what's happening anymore.

 

Being one who had pushed for more leniency on staff enforcement regarding cursing, I don't think there should be any change. Simply put, all that needs to be done is leave it to staff discretion. These people are clearly in violation of trolling and the common sense rule, thus having them warned. Why they weren't, I don't know, but they should be given they are in violation of multiple rules. Thus, simply having people use swears in moderation is no problem, but excessive use leads to players being violation of multiple rules.

 

This literally puts almost everyone at a disadvantage here andrewkm.

Staff, staff now have to deem what vulgar language is excessive or not? Do you realize how hard that is? Why give them more work just to allow swearing on your server because your argument is that it's the "internet".

You said with this new rule there would at least be a chat filter, but yet you've jumped the gun and changed the rule before you gave the users an opt out? There are little kids who come on here because it's a family friendly server.... Screw them right or screw the option of a chat filter right?

What users are you trying to attract with this rule change anyways? Users who feel the need to swear in chat? Toxic users who will swear just because they can..... This will only hurt the community in the long run and attract the wrong users.

You say excessive swearing isn't allowed, swearing itself is excessive..... I have no idea how you can tell your staff team to moderate what's excessive and just leave them with this new rule, it's plain stupid.

I really think this needed to be more planned out, please log into ECC with this new rule change. I can assure you 90% of the swear words are excessive.

Now I don't care if people swear, I do it as well, but on ECC? No. It shouldn't be deemed okay to use vulgar language.

 

Pretty fking sad when your own staff members are agreeing to this suggestion. @andrewkm

 

-1, For one, cursing is kinda a fact of life. I cant walk down the street without hearing some kind of swear. And that candy explanation... i dunno. I'v actually seen a lot of kids pretty responsible. Yes, those ones in the screenshot should've been warned. That's not gonna be the normal though, everyone seemed to find out it was okay suddenly so ofc there gonna say it excessively a bit. Also, the f word is one of the most common. I say leave the rules how it is.

 

Just add a swear filter.

-1

 

@Ndm57dcraft, I'll respond to your post in sections, as that is how your structured your post.

It's not all that difficult to discern "moderation" from trolling. For example, if state, "What the f--- man? Why'd you kill me?", would that not be in moderation? Consequently, if in the same situation I say in chat, "S--- man, you're a f------ a------ and I hope you f------ burn in hell!" That would be excessive, correct? While I agree that this will lead to inconsistencies, I think that using a word repeatedly in a short period of time, or a string thereof, would be excessive. And no, the internet is not a safe space for you, or for anyone.

I can't respond to that given I was not aware a chat filter was going to be given an option in-game. As well, to everyone who uses the "little kids" argument, please stop. I am yet to find a seven year old who plays on the server, or even a nine or 10 year old for that matter. And by that age, it's extremely, extremely rare for kids to not already know the swears.

I don't think he's trying to attract anyone, I believe it is more to allow players to express their feelings without the need of reprimanding them. These "toxic users" you speak of who would be "swearing repeatedly and excessively" would be in violation of the trolling rule, common sense rules, and the cursing rule itself. As well, this is not going to attract anyone, nor repel anyone. It simply allows users to express their feelings. Again, excessive use, warning. Moderation, no warning. It is not that difficult to understand.

You need to explain how "swearing itself is excessive". I'll leave you with the definitions of "swearing" and "excessive", and then please tell me how you came to the conclusion that swearing itself is excessive, because I sure as hell didn't.

We also have rules that need staff discretion to rule. For example, harassment and trolling. There is not handbook on how to deal with harassment and trolling situations, other than what the particular staff member believes is and is not harassment and trolling, is that not correct? The way those situations are handled with discretion would be dealt with in the same manner as swearing rules.

Fair enough, but don't try to show yourself as impartial by saying that you swear, but you don't think it should be allowed, it really doesn't work in an argument.

I encourage you to respond to me, and anyone for that matter. Critiques and criticisms are encouraged.

 

I haven't noticed much change, I've seen people get warned for that shit in the last few days. Unless it changed literally today.

 

None of this would be an issue if we had a swear filter...... At least we have our lotto boosters...