[Suggestion] Possible MSword fix

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  1. EraNow

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    Suggestion: Give players with MSwords an Eff 10 axe

    Reason: Like the Eff 7 pick, this would allow the tool to be a hard core money maker, and used for clearing. However, this suggestion would only work in the event world guard prevents enchanted axes from being usable on Melons.

    That's what I'm saying in a nutshell, now on to the suggestion. With this suggestion, there is basically a whole star tool reform. Putting all star tools into categories and such to correspond their price - usefulness. To make things more clear, I'll set it up in a chart:

    • Money Making & Clearing tools:
    1. Eff 7 Pick - 2,000 Nstars
    2. Melon Axe (Eff 10) - 2,000 Nstars
    • Money Making tools:
    1. Star Rod - 1,500 Nstars
    • Clearing Tools:
    1. Eff 10 Shovel - 1,000 Nstars
    As you can see, the new prices are set by their usefulness and the demand to own one. I think these prices are a fair reflection on what the tools should cost, and will allow the use of Melon Farming to still be a strong force in our economy.

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    Why EFF7? You only need at least EFF4/5 for an efficient harvest.
     
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    Because we still need a form of farming that's only OP with a star tool. Disallowing melons to be used with an Eff 5 also prevents the eclipse of Pumpkins as well. Because the breaking speed would be the same, only people with the Eff 10 could break melons, and the difference would be in the price of those melons.
     
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    Do you mean you can 'only' farm melons with an EFF10 ?
     
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    Exactly, world gaurd would not allow other axes if this were to go through
     
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    That is rediculous.
     
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    How is it ridiculous at all? We aren't changing anything for people with Eff 5 axes; they aren't suffering at all. I'm just coming up with a solution to prevent those who spent time, and many who spent IRL money from being extremely unhappy.

    Infact, I'm no Farming enthusiast at all. I suggested the Farming nerf, got it approved, and here's my take on Melon Farming:

    This is an interesting topic. Farming here on ECC has the ability to make or break the Economy. It's one of the few thing that all users, new or old, do for money.
    Melon farming is one of the easiest, most simple ways of making money. I can make 14-15k an hour, for two hours, and watch a movie at the same time. I share a Melon sword with pat2100 (it's his but he lets me mooch off him) and I'd say I've made about 400k total over the last month two months I've had access to it. What does this figure mean to me? I don't view it as I still have $600,000 to go, I view it as $1,400,000. The Melon sword is still something of value. It still has weight. That 400k I wouldn't otherwise have. However, my point it, the sword still represents money. Melon Swords have sale value, and can be sold at any time.

    Owning a Melon Sword is, in modern civilization, like owning a sports franchise. You can purchase the franchise, and you'll have some cashflow/profit off of it. You'll me making money. However, you'll never make those 100's of millions that you paid for the franchise.

    So why do people do it? Because the franchise represents value. You can sell it later for the same or more than you paid. Lets say, you pay 400m for a team, and keep it for 8 years. At the end of those 8 years, you make 200m, and sell the team for 400m. You never made back the 400m you paid for the team, but that team still had value. It represents money. When you buy a Melon Sword, your money doesn't disappear, it's just represented in the form of an asset.

    Now, with regards to the farming it's self. When I said Melon Farming has the capability to break the economy, I really really meant that. There is absolutely no trade for melons, it's basically just printed money. The reason why Japanese currency - USD is about 10-1 is because Japan went through a recession. They basically "printed" money, and the value of each Yen decreased. It became to "common", and thus people with over 1,000,000 Yen wouldn't be considered rich. It can also work with objects as well. Some Nike shoes sell for $1,000+, but there isn't any real difference between them and $100 shoes. What makes them more valuable is their rarity.

    What I'm getting at here is we want to keep the value of an Eco-Dollar high, and show how strong the economy is. In a weak economy, Diamonds would cost $500+, and people would have a lot more money, but wouldn't be considered "Rich".

    http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/suggestion-increase-melon-prices.102824/#post-526848
     
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    You said that only eff10 axe users can farm the Melons, how is/will that make anyone happy?
     
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    The people who will be happy are those with the Melon Swords. They will get their exclusive way of farming that is still better than any other method. Because Melon Farming will be at the rate of Pumpkin farming, why have the two crops make exactly the same money, and screw over the people who used to Melon farm, rather than allow those people to continue Melon farming, and making the same money? I know melons will, of course, have to decrease in price, but they'll still be at a price higher than pumpkins.
     
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    So what about the new buiders who want to start farming, they build a melon farm to start out only to find out he cant do shit unless he has a EFF 10 axe?
     
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    They can break melons, but they just can't with an axe that will insta-break them. No builder will start out with enchanted tools of that level.
     
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    Uh.... right.
     
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    Or just let the market of Melon Swords crash,
    Like in the real world, when something loses money or becomes obsolete, you dont go back asking for a refund or exchanging it for something that is new...

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    I have a Video Player, i payed £50 for it back in the day, now because DVD came out, videos aren't made anymore cause something better has come out.
    Ill take a refund or exchange it for a £50 dvd player.

    What do you think the store would say to me?
     
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    Pickaxes break melons just a fast... They wouldn't disable breaking melons, just with an axe. Any other tool can be used.
     
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    I'm confused with this suggestion. If it is possible to prevent certain axes from breaking melons, then why wouldn't the solution be just to prevent all axes from breaking melons? Why the whole, trade sword for axe and prevent certain axes and allow others? Seems more complicated to me.
     
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    I agree with emau, just prevent all axes from being able to break melons. Life would go on the same that way.
     
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    This isnt the real world. This is a minecraft server. Andrewkm wants people to stay on his server and continue to donate. Some people invest ALL of their money into a melon sword. People will quit when they find out that their sword is worthless.
     
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    I invested 900k into a melon sword, I'd like to have some compensation if a cheaper tool makes more than it.
     
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