[Suggestion] No-Kit SG Arenas

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IDEA IS AWESOME!

 

Everyone would join non-kit arenas. I suggest to add only one arena that is kit-free.

 

I misunderstood. +1

 

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+1000 even tho your the 300th person to suggest this it still Needs to happen I have no idea why it has not .

 

Still worth trying

 

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It's almost as if the people who can actually make this happen are blind... or just not incredibly public.

 

+100000
HELL YEAH! AWESOME!

 

"Everyone would join non-kit arenas" seems a bad counter argument in my opinion: those who purchased the kits will keep going in kit-allowed arenas and fight among themselves, problem solved. I think that this is just the poor excuse of who wants to make easy money constraining new players to be cannon fodder, and to perdition with the fact that their frustration might lead to their departure from the server (and we all know this is the last thing this server needs).
On top of that, this is even a very short sighted strategy: kit-ers will always be short of cannon fodders, for the very simple reason that after just a few matches non-kit-ers just stop playing SG (as it happens right now). So not having kit-free arenas doesn't even help kit-ers: it just prevents non-kit-ers from playing SG, with no benefit at all.
Is this worth?

p.s.: I can't believe that this is the only reason why there are no kit-free arenas, because it's a freaking obviously fallacious argument. If that's the case: what is the real reason why there are no kit-free arenas (which seemingly nobody dares to say aloud)?

 

@Expipiplusone i so agree!!! +111111

 

Oh, one more thing: it has been recently suggested that mining world should be made PvP, because "new players expect PvP and are rather disappointed when they discover that on this server you need to pay nether access to have some PvP".
Well, it's not true: actually this server does offer PvP to new players without need to pay for nether access: it's (drum roll) SG! It's just that... oops, nevermind.

 

In this thread they say that SG is not a minigame but just another part of the economy, and kit-free arenas would have disruptive effect on the economy. Kits just differentiate among high-end and low-end PvP-ers, just like iron pick and star pick differentiate among high-end and low-end miners.
While I already knew this, reading it again made me get what I think is the real reason behind the non-introduction of kit-free arenas. I said:

Well, the problem is not that everyone would join non-kit arenas: the problem is that nobody would buy kits in the first place! And I admit this would be a major issue. Unless you change something else...

 

Ok true less people would buy kits, but it's a solid investment because these new players that would get chased away from insanely OP kits in sg would now stay on the server those users could become productive members of ECC and donators. This means in the long run we will increase our numbers and by doing such we will increase our donations.

 

I understando your point, but it's a bit complex and it's not granted at all that it would go the way you describe it.
Anyway, if the winning rewards of kit-free arenas are significantly lower than the rewards of kit allowed ones, then the incentive to buy kits stays in its place: buying kits would allow one to win in high-pay arenas (I made this point in this thread)

 

While there's no concrete proof all of what I'm saying is true there is evidence for it. We have made observations that users (specifically new ones) leave the server due to the incredibly OP kits. Because of users leaving because of this you can infer they would have stayed if the situation was different. Because a large amount of users would stay on the server you can infer that they would become members of the ECC community and contribute and donate.
I understand that people might still buy kits and I agree with this suggestion.