Denied [Suggestion] More Inclusive VMR Reward System

I've been working on spec'ing out some solution to this as I 100% agree -- I can't grind VMR for hours each week and since I'm guaranteed not to make top 10 it's almost like I just shouldn't play.

What I was thinking of is having some set "achievements" that of course reset whenever VMR does. These could award ECD directly via the forums, and possibly directly add leaderboard points as well.

 

Yeah in addition, up until a certain point, it's nonlinear for effort put in, so people that have more time in game easily jump ahead. Most of the top 10 now were top 10 on Sunday, so it's hard for anyone new that wants to try placing to place.

 

Yeah I like that. We should also add some lower rank achievements for less ECD (like smelt iron gives $15 ECD)

 

Vmr was fun for the five minutes I had to play one day. I like vanilla a lot! But it’s not worth it because I’ll never make top 10. I’ll keep watching for the changes in the system and stick to the main server for now. Loved vmr until I got blown up

 

I completely agree. I am not at all motivated to play the VMR right now because of how far behind I am. If I had something that I could actually look towards accomplishing later in the game, without needing to be grinding 24/7 in order to get something out of it, I would personally be a lot more active on the VMR server.

 

if we were to implement a ranking system the ranks would be permanent. I would prefer a "weekly" achievement system that resets as the main "non-leaderboard" approach though.

I don't want the VMR money to directly convert to anything that's permanent as that heavily restricts us in the diversity of our themes. Right now it's a given that the average earnings per hour will shift from week to week with the theme changes. I don't want us to have a situation where people only see VMR as worth it during certain themes.

Ideally every achievement would be finite and not vary from week to week (for instance it will always be exactly as hard to find diamond the first time, visit the nether, kill the wither, etc).

 

In this case, make the achievements absolutely ridiculous (like sell one million bones) that way it would either take weeks of casual play or hours upon hours of intense play

 

huh?

I'm intending to say they should reset each week... so you can continue to earn them and actively earn some money from VMR.

 

I’m sorry. I had a 16 hour day today so far and I totally misread what u said

 

Points/ECD will absolutely *NEVER* be based on VMR Dollars. This is economically a disaster and would take ages beyond ages to tweak for vanilla and for each week. Suggesting that VMR Dollars could be used for anything but end-of-the-week leaderboards is 100% useless as it will never happen.

With that said I do like the idea of having VMR ranks (other than runner) and VMR achievements. I’ll leave this thread open for further suggestions on how we can do that, however when it comes to VMR Dollars, don’t even bother suggesting we use those as a template, it is a 100%-will-not-happen.

ECD will never be awarded from VMR for anything other than the end-of-week-leaderboard.

It isn't supposed to be easy after all, if you really want first one week, you're going to have to wait for a Sunday reset and put serious effort into it.

VMR will never be a permanent alternative to the main server. Other servers we add to the network may be, but not VMR. The reason people have so many ideas/suggestions for VMR is because it's the first new server we ever added to ECC. Just wait for new ones to pop up, like Skyblock, which actually will be permanent alternatives to the main server.

As well as stated above, VMR dollars will never be used as a template for points.

As above, it isn't meant to be easy. Also there will never be a world border, this is vanilla.

Now here we have a solution I can possibly get behind, hmm... "Collect a certain number of hard to obtain items for an achievement" ... this way you don't even have to follow the theme, you can just play VMR for achievements... interesting, lets see if I can make something out of this

Never. The only way to EVER make ECD from VMR will be the end of the week leaderboards. This will literally 100% never change.

As clare mentioned above, those kind of achievements MAY happen, still trying to wrap my head around how I can possibly do this

Yup, I see where you're coming from, impossible to compete with the hardcore guys. If you read Clare's idea above, this is what I'm leaning towards right now

I prefer to have permanent achievements that don't reset, WITHOUT a ranking system at this time. Perhaps a ranking system in the future based on how many of those achievements you have.

As you mentioned, this is one of the reasons VMR Dollars will never affect anything on the main server. Ever. 100%

This is what I am leaning towards

Resetting achievements every week will make them useless to earn. Players like permanent "achievement badges" kind of like our forum medals. The achievements will definitely be permanent.

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There, I think I answered everything ...

The summary is:

- VMR Dollars will never be used as a template for achievements, ecodollars, absolutely anything, other than the end of week leaderboard/ecd reward. Do not even waste your time suggesting it, it is 100% set in stone.
- Achievement system for permanent achievements is quite a cool idea, just need to wrap my head around how I would properly do it and handle it. Something like 10,000 bones = skull master, or whatever sounds pretty epic. Some sort of Vanilla Achievement book you can slowly fill out ... hmmmmmmm thinking thinking

PS: I understand there are millions of ideas floating around VMR, but this is simply because it's the first new server we added. We will not change it into something it is not, sorry. Once we get more servers, stuff like "permanent places to play over the main server" (skyblock, hell maybe even another main) will become a possibility. VMR will not change in any way like that. VMR is VMR. A vanilla week to week grind-fest. If you cannot compete, stick to the main server/other servers we add.

 

@ajp79 dude. once again you beat me to the suggestion i was thinking of doing XDD.
anyways, @JamieSinn @andrewkm
+1to this, but i think ranks should be based on points instead, coz rn all points do is get you a forum medal.

 

Read my response.

 

Oops I didnt see...
But my suggestion is -
trade vmr points (not VMRD) for vmr ranks.
so 10 points = sprinter
20 points = supersprintwr
100 points = vmr forum medal and (rankhere).
If this thing is the kind of thing you said you will never be added, then my bad, sorry.
I'm just confused of what you meant in your response, because my rank idea has nothing to do with the main server and ecd.

 

VMR points will never be traded/removed from the leaderboard.
I already have an idea I'm working on with Jamie to make VMR more interesting for those who cannot compete though.

 

Oh okay, and that's awesome because some of us cant grind like the others...
(others=@DiamondDesire)