Minecraft Name: a18greek18 Suggestion: Change the rules for the player market so that players are required to have a shop design and be active-ish within the market. In short, disallow this: Reason: It looks stupid having multiple shops in the market with just 1-4 signs. Force all players who buy spawnshops to actually attempt to do something with their shops. Require them to design something and actually be active-ish within the market. The current rule for spawn shops is: "This area can have anything you like within it. Get creative and make an awesome store. It must however be a store. A minimum of 8-10 trade signs must be in your store area. Not following this rule risks getting evicted. This is not your personal private plot; this is your commercial store plot." To my knowledge this has never been enforced, and it needs to start being enforced. Look at Station46, Station14, Station32, Station37, Station72, and Station36 for example. All of these shops are illegal (according to our current shop rules) and nothing is being done about it. Nor has anything ever been done about it iirc. My first suggestion is that we should start enforcing this rule. When a player applies for a shop have the admin who handled the application say something along the lines of "Added. You have 7 days from this post to construct your shop and start running it." This will prevent confusion due to the player being given a set date to have their shop up and running. Furthermore, give players with empty shops a 7 day warning of removal via /mail and forum PM. After the 7 days is up wipe their shop entirely and free it up for another player to use. Secondly, I believe that the wiki rule regarding spawnshop activity should be changed to: "Your shop can have anything you like within it. Get creative and make an awesome business. It must however be a store with an obvious shop-like design. A minimum of 8 trade signs must be in your store area at all times. Not following this rule risks getting evicted. This is not your personal private plot; this is your commercial store plot." Station68 is borderline. This shop is a perfect example of the minimum that shops should be. The owner of the shop made a design, his activity is questionable, and he has very low stock in just 9 trade signs. This should be the absolute minimum allowed in the market. Any Other Information: Thanks for your time @Nicit6 What's your opinion on this? Link To This Plugin/Is this a custom addition?: N/A
+1. Even though a ton of these shops will expire in two days, it's still pretty terrible to see them as they are.
I've brought these shops to the attention of SAs before, but the rule is never enforced for whatever reason, +1
Don't see any point. If the users are paying for the stall it shouldn't matter. It's still draining money from the economy -1
Draining a whole 5k/week from our economy of hundreds of millions of dollars. Impressive. As you can tell, that argument is irrelevant. An empty market stall just makes our market look stupid. If someone wants to pay for a stall they should at least make an attempt to do some business with it.
If these shops are simply 5k per week then this should be enforced. However looking through the for sale section it seems that many auctions have occurred where people pay a lot of money for a shop. Is it fair to take it away from them if they go inactive?
Those players who own those front row shops are generally very active and/or staff members so their inactivity would be fairly unlikely. If it were to happen, staff would likely step in and auction the shop. The only reason I see this being a problem is when the market is full and these "shops" are taking away potential opportunities for players to make real shops. As it stands, or as it was the last time I checked, there seem to be a number of vacant plots still left, so they're not taking anything away just yet. Other than that this seems like a solid point. +1/-1
I buy and flip shops. I like to keep them empty as I don't actually use them. (/warp station14 for sale. 40k ) -1
I don't agree with market shops being bought with the sole intention of flipping them - I firmly believe market shops should be solely for buying/selling goods at the stall. Let's just pro/con things out here with widespread shop flipping: Cons - Shop prices are raised as flippers create extra demand for stalls and shrink the supply of them when they purchase them. This makes it harder for people who will actually use and maintain their shops to get them. - This creates an inactive market as you'll find lots of empty stalls owned by people. This, again, makes it harder for those who will actually use/maintain shops to get them, not to mention the fact that it makes it harder for users to find shops that sell the goods they want and reduces competition. Pros - Rich users will make less money... Oh wait... they're rich and already have enough resources to make money in plenty of other ways.
Okay. Glad to hear your opinion. I see no harm in renting a shop for 20k, then selling it for more to make a 20k profit. There is an over abundance of stalls anyway, I just flip the more useful ones. No one said you had to buy from me.
As someone who has previously attempted to have action taken against this sort of thing I could not agree more. +1 from me.
Sure, there's an "overabundance" of total market stalls, but when you take a walk around the market, you'll find that this "overabundance" is largely concentrated in more unattractive locations - Areas where it'd be hard to run a shop and make a decent amount of money. You even said yourself that you like to buy the "more useful" stalls. The value of a stall is ultimately tied to location, so we can therefore assume that you're talking about stalls in attractive locations. And that proves my point that stall flipping takes up stalls that could otherwise be used by people who are actually interested in running/maintaining a shop. No one wants to sell goods in an area where you'd literally get no customers. Basing your argument off of an overabundance of stalls in unattractive locations is just silly.
Personally I think it seems a little silly to do something about players owning empty shops when the server owns so many.
Okay, well it makes me money. I just made another flip And eventually, someone uses it. It was only empty for about a week, and will be full for at least 1 month now. Again, I see no harm.
It's their shop and they pay the fee. If they don't want to design it and keep it at the minimum, then so be it.
