The title pretty much says it all. SG Boosting should be made illegal in the rules, because it's illegal in the game. Abusing SG for money is no small offence, so it's important that it is made clear in the rules. I'm surprised that it hasn't been added yet, because it's definitely illegal and should be added to the server rules here. Maybe add something like this under the "Survival Games" section: Abusing SG for money is illegal. This is often referred to as "SG Boosting" by players. Here are some examples of what's considered SG Boosting: Using alternate accounts to collect money from SG Joining SG with friends for the purpose of killing each other for money SG Boosting is taken very seriously and will lead to a ban if you are caught. Obviously this example isn't perfect and needs some changes, but it's a rough sketch of what should be added. The reason I think this should be added is because SG Boosting is 100% illegal, and if it's not included in the server rules, players might be able to get off the hook for boosting because "they never knew it was illegal". Plus, it would prevent loopholes and confusion, and clarify the rules for survival games. You may also want to add in the fact that teaming with people and splitting the money is legal, as long as the purpose isn't to farm money illegally. Just a suggestion, let me know what you think.
Yeah, it makes exactly no since for it to be enforced but does not have it in the wiki/server rules for it to be read. You can ask any Staff member and they will say its against the rules from as much as I know.
Pardon my ignorance, but... what exactly do you mean when you say "SG boosting"? Google was not my friend on this one
It's when people either use alts to play SG and farm money (getting kills, or winning games with only alts), or play games with friends for the purpose of letting someone win without actually playing and splitting the money. Basically abusing SG so that you make money by not doing any work.
SG boosting is when two users or more, either kill each other and split all the money fairly, kill each other and let each other take turns winning, or as soon as the game starts the two users can leave the match and get the money from it very easily.
Oh, just that. I totally understand why it should be illegal, and I agree on that; but I see a problem in how to enforce such a prohibition, it's almost impossible. What's missing is a negative feedback in the mechanics of the game itself: asking staff to just enforce it manually is unrealistic. I'll throw a random idea; change the mechanics of payment: if a couple players beat each other within seconds after grace expires for too many games in a row, they don't get any more money (until they start to kill or be killed by other players in the following games). Something like that, it was just a crude example to describe my point. It would involve quite some thinking and time to code it and Jamie might want to smash my face for proposing this; but after it's done, it's done, and staff won't have to manually check whether some players are making fun of the game or having fun in the game: because if they try to beat the system, they won't get any money.
That's why their is a Survival Games History, anyone can view the Game history to see what or who has one the matches. Game Admins+ can look into it even further I believe so it helps a lot more. This is a screenshot of the Game History for today, though their are probably thousands, almost millions of pages in this.
Honestly from being a former SA, I can tell you firsthand that looking at that is not helpful at all. You can't tell whether two people were actually "boosting" or simply playing games of 1v1's with junk at spawn after the fact. The only way to really be sure is to catch them in the act, which is not the most convenient thing in the world. @Expipiplusone is entirely correct in stating that this would be best handled not by a rule but by some systematic prevention. Even something like this would help: https://ecocitycraft.com/forum/thre...-from-games-containing-only-2-players.151757/ I don't really like the idea of rules to prevent this because any rule you try and write looks like what's been suggested but you reach the following with that: Abusing SG for money is illegal. This is often referred to as "SG Boosting" by players. Here are some examples of what's considered SG Boosting: This line states that "x" is illegal. Then it goes forth to say "here are some examples of what this is", so you can tell the rule won't even include everything that is illegal. This shouldn't be a huge issue honestly, provided the examples are good, however... Using alternate accounts to collect money from SG This is already illegal due to our alternate accounting rules - it should be no more and no less illegal if you were using SG versus mining, farming, etc. Joining SG with friends for the purpose of killing each other for money Isn't that the purpose of SG? Play game, make money? Regardless, when writing rules based on intentions you leave gaping loopholes for "other intentions". Is doing this with other intentions okay? It probably isn't, but with this rule it is. SG Boosting is taken very seriously and will lead to a ban if you are caught. Sentences like this should never be in the rules. Not only are they not rules, but in my opinion they imply that any rule without this disclaimer should not be taken seriously and a violation thereof will not result in punishment. (also worth noting it's probably not taken very seriously if it hasn't yet been included in the rules after 3+ years of SG on ECC, but I digress) tl;dr any rule you can write for this will probably have some flaws, this should instead be prevented systematically
The only reason I requested having it in the server rules was because I saw staff enforcing it, and it doesn't make much sense to enforce a rule that's not even in the server rules to begin with. What I meant was playing a game with friends for the money, and splitting it. Not playing because of the game, but for the money. Imaginex said that's illegal in this complaint. If the best thing to do is to create a system that prevents SG Boosting, then that's what should be done. However, I don't know how much work this would be for Jamie, and if it's worth his time. But, something needs to be done about SG Boosting, because it's a rule that's being enforced by staff, but it's not in the official server rules. Adding it to the rules would take some time to make sure everything is airtight, but in the end it would help. Unless we have the time to make an automated system.
