[Suggestion] Let builders with forum premium use shoutbox

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  1. TalLopez

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    Suggestion:
    Let builders who have purchased forum premium use the shout box
    Reason:
    I am assuming the reason that builders cant use shout box is to prevent spam from new players and spam accounts. This means that if someone doesnt want to rank up from builder they can never use shout box. I am suggesting that builders with the forum premium feature should be able to use shout box. This will make it so people who don't want to rank up from builder are happy and it will give some people a reason to buy forum premium.
    Other Information:
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    Link to this plugin/Is this a custom addition?:
    None needed
     
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  2. bobman3355

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    +1 more money for the server because people like @TalLopez will buy forum premium. I see no downside!
     
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  3. DonaldTrump9

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    +1 builders like @TalLopez would be able to share their knowledge in shoutbox, which would benefit the server in many ways. Great idea!
     
  4. TalLopez

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    Thanks for the +1! really appreciate it. I would love to be able to share my knowledge with everyone.
     
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    I like this suggestion. It seems fair and quite right because their are a few users who want to remain Builder rank and they cant see what's going on in Shoutbox or see what other users talk about. I remember when the Shoutbox used to be view-able to all users even if you weren't signed in on your account, just couldn't type a message.
    +1 Excellent suggestion!
     
  6. Exile1999

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    +1

    No bias here.Really. No Bias.
     
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  7. TalLopez

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    None from me either. Thanks for the +1!
     
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    I don't see how this would not be added. +1
     
  9. 12kcalbyzzO

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    TalLopez,

    You have been an inspirational figure throughout my lifetime and I want to say that I truly am glad to see you join our community. I can't wait to see what kind of knowledge you can bring to the community and share your secrets on success so that one day I can be a successful young entrepreneur. I believe you deserve the right to use shoutbox at the price of forum premium and I'm sure @Exilenela agrees because using shoutbox is a key element in the server and you can only truly be successful once you have access to it. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for successful builders like you and @Exilenela to not be able to use or even view shoutbox, everyone should be given opportunity because it is from opportunities that we become successful like you are.

    I wish your suggestion the best of luck, +1
     
  10. TalLopez

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    Thanks for the kind words and support! Im glad that I have been an influential figure in your life and I am glad to be in this community. I only wish I could share my knowledge through the shout box!
     
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    +1 Tai Lopez has unlimited knowledge on how to better your life! He has helped me immensely in my quest to be successful! It is a shame that he is being silenced by pointless rules! Let the builders with forum premium talk!
     
  12. TalLopez

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    Glad I have been able to help you better your life! thats my goal! I appreciate the support of my suggestion.
     
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    https://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/access-to-shoutbox-for-donators-and-res.117964
    https://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/suggestion-shoutbox.120081
    https://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/suggestion-shoutbox.134627

    Well then, time to play the Advocatus Diaboli.
    ECC is based on the principle of unlocking new privileges at higher ranks. Presidents cannot have town claims; Residents cannot have official ownership of towns; Builders are limited in regard to trade signs, shoutbox access, and a few other abilities from /help resident.
    Shoutbox access is a feature for Residents and is therefore an incentive to purchase the rank. Someone who "doesn't want to rank up" has consciously decided to abstain from certain privileges.
     
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    Since we already lack so many features, why not just give us one more? ;) I'm sure people will still rank up to resident if this feature becomes available to some builders :p
     
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    That may be the case. I cannot argue for or against it because I lack the relevant data.
    Counterquestion: What makes shoutbox access different from other rank-exclusive features? If donators can bypass ranks for this single feature there must be a justification for why everything else should remain the same.
    ECC's rank system is based on the concept that players will apply for a rank if they want to obtain access to its privileges. The suggestion explicitly mentions builders who do not wish to rank up; those players are still going to be disadvantaged by the Resident/Mayor/President features that are not available to them. If they ever want to apply for town features, rent a station or even just want a differently colored name, those players will need to apply for the required ranks.

    Yes, making shoutbox access available for donators benefits a few builders. However, the concept of voluntary long-term builders is inherently at a disadvantage due to the way rank features work. In the long term a rank upgrade appears to be far more beneficial for the affected players than one single exception to the established rank system.
     
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  16. TalLopez

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    I know that, but I would also say that shout box has little affect on in game play so it can not really be compared to town claims. It is simply a way to communicate via the forums. I feel like if someone buys forum premium, a feature that does not offer very much compared to other features, they should be able to bypass this. What do you think Andrew would rather have me do? Spend 15k on a rank or spend $30 on forum premium? Also if I want to do something counterproductive and then spend $30 instead of 15k ecd, I should have the right to do that. Though I get that you might not understand rights because you are a EUROPEAN.
     
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    I mean a lot of just basic server information is usually spread through the shoutbox, for example when the server is down you can usually find the reason in the shoutbox, etc. You compare trade signs and like towns to a basic form of communication on our forum and I disagree with that. I honestly don't think this should be denied for anyone, I think possibly denying the ability to reply would be understandable.
     
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    Could just apply for resident...
     
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    Just talk in shout box on your main...?
     
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  20. 12kcalbyzzO

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    what about @Exilenela???