[suggestion] Less Rules More Fun

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I agree with this entirely, but I believe that the server should not have rules but a set of values to follow.
I also agree with the rules too, so a
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and a
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I think the rules are fine, but the punishments for breaking them are not strict / harsh enough at times. I believe the spam rules are written to decrease the number of people that decide to act like a pair of snickering 8 year olds that stumbled upon a live microphone and think it's hilarious to make fart noises, especially if they can annoy adults while doing so

But hey, I'm just a guy with a dissenting opinion

 

Al the other rules are fine, but what is being consisted spam is really getting out of hand.

So to spam +1, but to everything else -1

 

Personally, I'm somewhat in support of this idea.

Ever since I have joined ECC, I have always been a bit confused about the spam rule. Sometimes it's over enforced, like what is mentioned above, and other times, it's under enforced and people get away with things. It [the rule] is up for interpretation itself, making difficult to see the line of good and bad.

However, what I have found is the moderators and staff that are more hands-off about the simple rules (spam being a notable example) have been the ones that make the atmosphere most enjoyable. They let the game flow, and warn when warns need to be given, but otherwise let petty things go. I personally have always tried to work that way, and it makes ECC all the more enjoyable.

Now, I'm not saying all rules should be abolished. More, the way I interpret this suggestion is taking the aforementioned hands-off approach from staff. In that event, I support it. For getting rid of rules? I mean, they're in place for a reason, so we have to follow them.

 

@TaylorBros22 i think your input would be valued on this

 

To late to turn back now.

 

But you must understand that anyone using the word cheezus is merely saying it to attempt to wiggle their way around the rules, and or just be a sarcastic child. These rules are in place to make sure that minecraft is what it says it is; kid friendly. I believe giving up the right to swear (which profanity really isn't mature in the first place and shows a major lack of intelligence) so younger audiences can experience the server in a manor that isn't going to open them up to vulgar language and profanity. It's all for the better my friend just remember that, that's why the rules are there.

 

+Uno .

Someone logs on, says "Bonjour" or "Aloha" and gets warned for not speaking English. I think that our use of other languages needs more leniency as well, I mean.. one word doesn't hurt.

 

I'm now in pretty much full support of this suggestion, because what you just clarified lines up with what I was thinking before.

+1.

 

The hell has swearing to do with cheezus?


The main problem here is inconsistency in staff enforcing the rules. One staffmember takes everything as literal and strict as possible, while the other is just trying to stop people from ruining the fun of the game. I was the latter, but to me it looks like the former seems to be getting more common. And that's bad. Enforcing the rules is fine, but if you're being a partypooper who warns for "hiii", "aloha", or minor swearing like "shit" "damn" and "hell", then you're very much missing the point of being a moderator. Moderators aren't the police, but some of them act like they are.

 

My research says otherwise.
http://malingual.blogspot.com/2014/02/linguistic-myth-2-swearing-shows-lack.html?m=1

 

I personally am thankful for the moderators that take the heat for standing by the commitment to providing us a family friendly environment. Less rules and less enforcement does not equal more fun for everyone.
It amazes me that those that want to spam and cuss can't seem to take it to a local or party channel - it is allowed (within reason) and does not negatively effect everyone on the server.
As for swearing - I understand when talking - but for the life of me still never understand why it just has to be typed. To me, there is no excuse.
The problem we have with swearing and spamming on the server is that once one player gets it started, many of the trolls come out of the woodwork and it usually does not stop until a moderator puts a stop to it.
And to clarify, this is not about the age of the players, our youngest players are usually the ones begging for the inappropriate behavior to cease. I understand the occasional slip, however, the constant immaturity of those that have no self control is the reason we must have rules.
Want to be immature and spam and swear? - no problem - take it to a party channel - please leave the rest of us alone with our "boring" game play.

 

+1. I like the idea of people not being able to bully each other in chat, but it gets annoying when I want to say something (anything pretty much) outside of minecraft because almost every single thing in real life is by "server appropriate". We could make a chat channel just for those who would like to speak about touched subjects but people, little kids are going to log on to other servers too, and I have a bit of news:


BAD LANGUAGE DOES NOT CORRUPT CHILDREN.

I don't see why people think it does, it is just anothe style of speaking. Like with us Irish folks, it's very casual to say something like this when you see a friend you haven't seen in a while: "how the **** you doin?" But I guess that much may be pushing it, it's just very sensitive and the mods seem like 10 year olds when you get a warning for saying "shit" in chat. That's all.

 

My view on this.

Yes, I am the strict moderator kuke talks of. I am not going to deny it, because, well, it's true, and I don't intend to change. I would first say that I only warn when it warrants a warn. For example, I would not warn someone for saying "spaam", but I would if they were to type "sppaaammm", because this is blatant spam. I warned for any sort of swearing when I was a 'younger' mod, because the way I have been brought up is that swearing is wrong and is not allowed. As I have gotten 'older' on the staff team, I have learnt that some people swear to express their opinion on something, as they can't think of anything else to say, and it is not up to me to judge them for this. As staff, we do have guidelines on what words to warn for and what words we allow.

As for subjects that are touchy, then I am completely against allowing any form of discussion of them. People get into very heated discussions and arguments over things like Politics, Religion etc, which is why they're not allowed. Why should the rest of the communtiy see a discussion between two people over a political view when we have things such as skype etc.

I think the rules are fine as they are. Why should a player be forced to listen to someone swearing and spamming just because they want to? Other languages are banned, everyone knows that, so you don't use them, simple as that. We are an English speaking server where you are expected to speak English. It's not rocket science to work out that you shouldn't use another language and that if you do you will be warned.

I am not afraid of people not liking me. I am not afraid of being the least popular member of staff. I don't care if you don't like me, because I am doing my job enforcing the rules. If we had no rules, there would be chaos. I don't care that because I'm strict someone may dislike me. I am not on staff for popularity. I shouldn't have to deal with grief of people, but I do, I suppose it's part of the job.

If you don't like the rules, leave. Simple as. Or, if you are reluctant to leave, take your spamming, swearing and trolling to skype or somewhere where, as admiral put it, the rest of us 'boring users' can't see it.

I will continue to moderate in the way I am doing, suggestions like this won't change my mind about it.
If you have any questions please ask them or forum PM me.

 

Man above me said it all ^

I am all for groups of users to be swearing discussing drugs references and religion, but do it in a skype call as you clearly know its against the rules.
Dont like the rules? Tough
I dont like that i have to pay 20% vat for my Call of Duty Black Ops 3 game, but i'm still gunna pay it.

No one is above the rules, well, no one is meant to be.

 

If you don't wish to believe that this kind of language corrupts kids, I won't force you to. However, from a Staff member's point of view, I've had many users come up to me complaining about language because either A) they just don't like the language, or B) Parents are very strict on it. I've had users forced to quit because parents caught language on the screen. My view is that it isn't good for kids, and frankly language in itself is childish, especially used as much as it has been on the server. It's ridiculous. Yes we can't control what parents may think or anything, but we should be at least accommodating for those who have that kind of issue. We've made accommodations for many people for several things, I think language should be included in that.

For this suggestion, I feel the rules as they are are generally good. Maybe a few rewritings and clarifications here and there, but nothing major such as dropping a swearing rule.

 

I agree with this #legalizesi