This idea was originally brought up by @eyesee3 in my thread so I cannot take ALL the credit. This is just my more detailed and personally modified explanation of what I think it should be and what the benefits are. Link to my other thread where the idea originally originated can be found below: http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/how-do-we-revive-ecc.110818/ What exactly is this suggestion? The idea is to setup a center at spawn where builders, residents, or anybody who is looking for a job can go in and see what jobs are available. If a building is unable to be constructed then perhaps a job wall of some sort at spawn? This would allow any employers (like myself) to pay a small fee to put a signs up with a description of the job, payment, and who to contact if interested. Benefits: This makes it 10x easier for new players to find quick jobs. Instead of digging through chat which is often spammed and can be hard to follow, users can simply go to the job center or wall and find a full list of available jobs instantly. This also allows employers (like myself) to advertise the job easier rather than spamming trade chat. Employers will have to pay a small fee to put their signs up so this takes some money out of the market and gives people another thing to spend their money on (I suggest a relatively small fee at first. Any suggestions on price can be listed in the comments). This promotes jobs!! Jobs are what keeps new users on this server because its a good way to get money and get around. Overall this just makes the job process much easier and simpler for both the employer and employee. I cannot think of any downsides or negatives to this idea because its nice and simple and wouldn't take much work I don't think. They're a bunch of other benefits to this but these are all the main ones I can think of as of right now. If you have any other suggestions, questions, or responses please feel free to comment! We are a community and we should take everybody's thoughts into consideration
This is an amazing idea, not only is it perfect for players who are brand new an are looking for ways to earn money but also anyone can benefit from this idea. Its like a utopian society!!! Amazing thinking THCOOL.
+1 for sure. Even though I don't have people doing jobs that much, it'd be very useful for those who do, just like you said above. However, since it might take up too much room at spawn, maybe they could have a spawn portal leading to the job center? Not sure. Great idea though eyesee3 !
Yes its ideal for jobs that are regularly going to be available but that doesn't mean that one time jobs cant be posted also. For example if all you need is for somebody to place dirt for a 200x200 town, Maybe we could make it listen only for that day and it would be taken down right after the job was done or taken. Prices: *Note that these are not the set prices and they can easily change. This is just for an example* but maybe we could charge like $50 for a single day post and then just pay another $50 if you want it to stay up the next day, the day after that, and so on. Then like $300 for a weekly post that would stay up for 7 days and after that you could simply repay the $300 for another week, and so on. I don't think a monthly or permanent post is necessary so I think the options should just stay with either daily or weekly. This way we could have single time jobs posted as well as permanent jobs (like the one I'm currently offering). Location: As for the space at spawn, Im sure there is a space we can find where we can fit a job center for now. If it grows and we notice that all the space is constantly filled with jobs, then we can maybe consider moving it but for right now I don't think a dedicated portal is necessary. Im sure the mods have things planned for those portals anyway. If you have any other ideas on location or you have a specific spot where you think it would fit please don't hesitate to say so in comments!
Yeah I knew about that, I was just saying the rate at which I post jobs would be low, but I know other users who need jobs to be done a lot would benefit from this. Just out of curiosity where do you picture the job center going at spawn? And how big do you imagine it being?
I see what you are saying but the rate in which employers post jobs shouldn't be an issue. Were not forcing you to all of a sudden create jobs lol. Just if you got a job, then post it... simple Honestly I have not thought of a specific spot. I looked around and a couple of ideas would be either in the place of where players can rent statues (perhaps we take away 1 or 2 of theses spots to build the center), and I noticed behind come portals there is un-used space with a couple of tree's so maybe there? Again I was first presenting this idea and if people liked and and agreed, then we could move forward and look for things such as an exact location. If you have any other idea of where this can be placed I'd love to know.
Hmm, I was thinking that the job center should be something that builders notice right away, so they can get going even faster. Like the SG board is in a very visible place at spawn and builders probably notice it quite quickly upon joining. I think that something like this should also be noticed easily, because then that'll increase the builders' chances of finding it and getting on to a job. That's why, unless there is sufficient room available at spawn, a portal would make sense; builders would notice a big portal with "Jobs" or "Job Center" written on top and go there, rather than having to look around in the trees and statue area. Plus, with a portal, you can warp to a different place where you could potentially make the job center as large as you need, rather than having to keep it a certain size at spawn. But I'll stop getting into details. Not quite necessary yet I absolutely agree this should be implemented, of course. Huge help to both employers and workers, like you said. I'll tag @eyesee3 here, since this was, in fact, his suggestion originally. Don't know about you but I'd like to see his idea of the job center.
I completely agree with you in saying that this needs to be something that builders can spot right away from spawn rather than having to look around for it. The more I think about it, the more I agree with you in that a portal dedicated to the job center would be the best option. The only reason I am not 100% pushing for it is simply the fact that Im not sure what the future plans for those portals are and if the server owner or mods already have use for them. However, if this is not the case and there is in fact an open portal or an open space for an extra portal then yes, I agree in that a portal dedicated to the job center would be the best option.
Small question about that. Who would handle that? As far as I know it would require GameAdmins+ to place anything at spawn. So we'D need: 1. An app format for signs because the money can't just go into somebody'S bal, but has to disappear just like for town feature apps; 2. GameAdmins with enough free time to handle those apps. I think it's a good idea, however it would require GA+ to do even more work. :/ +-0
+1 for a job center! A portal (as mentioned above) to a separate area would be a good idea... but couldn't it be an area where people looking for workers and people looking for work could just meet? Then you could just use "local" chat. Maybe a sign as soon as you walk through the portal that explains to new players how to change to local and turn off global? Another idea: Have 2 portals. One for job seekers, one for employers. Both go to the same area, but separated by a server protected fence. Workers / Ad Readers (anyone) can go to an area "protected" (like mining world spawn). Only thing they can do is read signs through the fencing (glass?), everything else is locked out. Other portal goes to an area around the protected worker zone. Portal only allows Resident and up through (if you made enough to get resident, you have been around for longer than 10 minutes...). Employer area is NOT protected, so anyone can place (locked) signs. Employer can remove the sign when they have enough workers for a given job. Have a set day & time for a mod to run through and remove any existing sign (weekly?) to "reset" (remove) all of the classified ads to reduce clutter. Viewing area could be divided into "employment", "housing", "for sale", and "wanted" if the area was big enough. No charge for placing signs, but same server rules apply (profanity, appropriateness, etc.) Not sure if an area is protectable to allow ONLY placing of signs...
I like this idea...would prevent GA's from a flood of apps, they'd only need to check for grief sometimes.
I like the idea of the 2 separate portals (1 for employers and 1 for job seekers). For any mod reading this, the portal doesn't have to be giant like the market one for example, it can just be the same size as any town portal. We should add signs at spawn that point to these portals so it's easy for new players to see. I have mixed feelings about the employer side being not protected. The reason being is that this means we have to trust everyone on this side not to mess with anything and quite frankly, I don't trust every body. I've been and seen many people be let down countless times on this server. That being said, even though it's not protected, if we make it a server rule not to grief or anything on this side then maybe that will prevent that issue. If somebody does grief then handle it the same way you would handle a grief in a protected town. I like the idea of having a mod come in maybe once or twice a week to check and do removals because many people may forget to remove their signs. So overall I like your addition to this idea. I do also like the idea of dividing the viewing area into sections. However I think there should only be 3. Those being "employment". "Housing or open plots", and "wanted (current bounties included). I don't think there should be a "for sale" section simply because we have a players market just for that. Another idea is perhaps if somebody does in fact grief or mess with the employer side multiple times, then maybe we can ban them from this section. This will just add more security.
Idk if I'm even allowed to bump suggestion threads but ill do it anyway..... I strongly believe this idea will only do good for the server and needs to be put into the server ASAP in my opinion, thank you
@JamieSinn could this be done? Or we could have a new type of staff a inspector or something like that for the job world thingy This post was posted by the fabulous slayer_boy_2000. Feel honoured that this was posted! X D p.s This is a signature
I strongly suggest against this, due to lag concerns. The only way I see this realistically done is by a custom plugin. That, as well as this is honestly not needed. I can see use for a plugin which is command based. But not a sign update. Too much headache.