[Suggestion] Item Frames

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  1. DD71

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    Re-enable Item Frames, but with some new rules.

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    I think that item frames should be re-enabled but with certain rules to make sure sure that lag is not an issue. These rules may include not being allowed in spawn shops and a limit on the number of item frames allowed in a certain size of an area.

    Reason
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    When building, item frames allow you to be much more creative and detailed. I've seen several youtube videos that show the creative use of item frames. They also allow you to make a map of your town and post it on the wall which I think is really neat.

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    For those of you that don't know, item frames were removed from the server in late 2013 because they were found to be a source of lag, especially in spawn shops. Mobs were removed for the same reason to my knowledge. Since we were able to re-enable passive mobs with little to no lag added to the server, I think it would be a good idea to at least try and see how the addition of item frames will affect the server.
     
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    I think it should work like lwc limits. But idk. Most likely wont happen :(
    Spawnshops are where item frames are needed most of all.
     
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    I'm guessing they would be in the same section as furnace buildings?
    +1 if it doesn't lag a lot
     
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    If items frames were able to be re-enabled with minimal lag that would be amazing!
     
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    They'd get butchered since they are entities
     
  6. DD71

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    They worked just fine for me before when they were enabled. I think it would still be nice if they worked the same way they used to.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that if you haven't broken your item frame since they became un-placeable, they will still be there.

    Edit: I'm trying to say that I don't think they get butchered.
     
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    I know that there are still some item frames out there so this may be true to an extent.
     
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    There is a way to make it so they dont get removed and +1 i dont see why they are not enabled they cause fps lag when there is a lot in 1 area not server lag.
     
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    Small problem: Dupes.

    1.8 added an awesome new dupe with them to get over a full inventory of 50% item frames and 50% the item that was inside. MAny older dupes with them still exist until this day and were never fixed.

    It would require a LOT of work to fix all those dupes, but then it could be re-enabled.

    From the current situation: -1.
     
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    There wasn't a main world butcher back then as there were no mobs to butcher. Now they are. They'd work a lot like how armor stands do now - generally pretty badly.
     
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    Armor stands work fine now - and old frames aren't currently being butchered, either.
     
  13. DD71

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    I don't know much about armor stands but I do know that there are currently several item frames still out there as well. I don't really know how enabling the placing of them would change the butcher system.
     
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    Hm, interesting. The rules we put in place would still be fairly similar to mobs (no more than, say, 50 in one place).
     
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    Yeah, I was thinking of something along the lines of that as well.
     
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    I want them too but just too many issues (lag, butchers, duping)
     
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    Or to limit the use of them, how about add them to ExtCreations?
    Reasons:
    1. We've gone this far without them, boohoo you spend $30 for something that isn't even remotely necessary
    2. Too many can cause a lot of lag
    3. They have something to do with being "extra creations"
    4. Another reason to donate
    5. If this wasn't added to ExtCreations and a limit of say, 50, would be the amount allowed in any area, if it were added to ExtCreations because of the less people using them there could be a higher limit to the amount allowed in any area
    6. Perhaps there could be a way to log any potential dupers because the amount of people to watch out for would be far less than the rest of the server, as well as we would have a rough idea of any potential dupers instead of everybody ever
     
    #19 12345shane, Mar 18, 2015
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    We have enough donation features we can not limit everything to features i dont see why this cant just be added they cause more fps lag when there is to many in 1 area not server lag this could easily be limited so people can only place lets say 50.
     
    #20 jwpwns, Mar 19, 2015
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