Denied [Suggestion] Island Evictions

I am just going to move this over to the suggestions thread

 

I also feel like someone should not be allowed to be removed without good reason. Ie. a week of not playing, or them being banned.

 

-1
The point of evictions on main are to allow a user to get their stuff. In skyblock once you start a new island you can't bring your stuff anyways so whats the point of an eviction notice? Sit around for 3 days? Wreck the Island in spite?? There's really no need for an eviction notice. Skyblock teams are much different than towns. I say the best advice for this is to make sure your teamed with people you fully trust. Or just solo an island, or be the leader of an island.

 

But that is completely not fair to the person who is being evicted for a trivial reason. If someone has put their effort into an island and help build it up then they should not just be allowed to be evicted outright. There is absolute need to for an eviction notice to some effect. If they wreck the island in spite? Ban them for grief. Removing people from towns without good reason should also be illegal. Skyblock teams aren't that much different than towns as you can still add players to your 'region' AKA the island and you're still able to run it like a town. Again, it should not be fair for someone to put all their /kits into the island, spend money on the island buying blocks, helping to build the island and then be kicked out and the owner and current players added keep their stuff? I'd say that is not fair, at all.

+ 1 There needs to be regulation to the running of skyblock islands.

 

Lets see...
1. SkyBlock you have a max of 12 team members. That's if you have SkyLegend. This means you really should pick teammates wisely, there's not a lot of room.

2. Skyblock wipes everything when you change islands. You couldn't bring anything at all with you. Why do you need a notice? Legit. Tell me exactly what you would do if I said "Hey I'm removing you in 3 days!" What would you do? the only thing really is to wait for the eviction, leave the island yourself and start your own right away, or do something in anger to ruin the teams island. Why should the island owner take a risk like that?

3. Unlike main, anyone who logs on to skyblock can have there very own region right away! They don't have to rely on another person for a home until they 'rank up' to have their own. They can have their own from the get go. A team is a choice. If you are scared of suddenly being evicted maybe don't be in a team. Or simply pick your teammates carefully. I don't really suggest joining any random team. Only join ones you fully trust.

If someone was purposely doing that to gain blocks then I'd say there would be an issue. However most people I know wouldn't do that. If you join up with someone who just wants your kits or blocks then that probably falls on the person not really knowing the people they decided to team up with.

Your response came in right in the middle of me writing this lol. So i'll respond to your reply here as well.
Being inactive I can perfectly see why a team might evict someone. Like I said, there is limited space on islands. Though I do suggest maybe having a team chat on discord? My team has that and It helps us all stay connected. That could maybe help you when life gets busy. Just letting your team know your still there. Though also remember a lot of teams are in it for either trying to stay in first place or trying to earn money. Inactivity can be huge problems for those goals.

 

I forgot to do a response to this. My bad.

Someone can hurt an island in a very short amount of time without even causing block damage. Just think, coming on to your island to suddenly find all your crops gone (which we don't even roll back on main) all your animals gone. All your villagers gone. (shuts down iron farms and trades) theres a lot that can be screwed up very fast that wouldn't be able to be rolled back. My teams current villagers took a good week to get them with good trades. And we had spawn eggs to help us start.

 

I understand that. That would be very frustrating. But honestly even if evictions were added if you were gone for inactivity I don't think this would have been avoided. Main has evictions for inactivity. Does your full time job often make you go inactive? If it does you might be happier on a solo island maybe? If you're leader of an island you don't need to worry about being evicted. Just a thought.

 

At first, I didn’t see a point in this, as Strong says... what’s the point of a 3 day eviction if people can’t take their things with them to the new island. However, what if someone was kicked/evicted for no good reason other than just to get rid of them? Friendships go sour fast. Sure you can’t take your things to your new island, but maybe the person who is being kicked from the island doesn’t want to leave their stuff behind for the others to use. They should have that right, as it is their things, so they should have the change to gather their items before being evicted.

So +1, eviction for island should be handled just like in towns on main. As stated, if the person spends 3 days griefing the island, that can also be handled how it is on main as well. My only concern is, if the evicted member had locks on the island... how will they be handled? If they can be handled like on main, that should happen too.

 

My only issue with this is... whats stopping them from just grabbing everything on the island and having it all wiped..?
Is it just my team that doesn't lock stuff o-o?

 

I guess to sum up what I feel about this suggestion: Eviction notices will put a whole Island in danger of revenge, for no real benefit of the person being evicted.

Now yes, Right now I can also see how people that aren't island owners are also at a disadvantage as they can be evicted. My one problem is this suggestion would merely just switch the person who's at risk rather than offering a middle ground. I'm not really sure what a middle ground would be right now though.

 

Skyblock islands aren't towns

Since items can't be taken to a new island literally what is the point? Sure, you can set the people who evicted you back I suppose... However I see no reason for us to add complex rules to skyblock just so you can properly spite people.

 

+1 to this idea. If it's done for towns it should be done for island. You should have the right to take back what you put into the island. You can't really sit here and say what if they grief the town and tell people to pick their team wisely without also saying, pick your team members wisely if you're worried about griefing and you wont get griefed when you evict someone. It kind of goes both ways... If the team member is being told to pick a team wisely then the island owner should do the same with their members. People should have the right to get their items back regardless of whether or not they will be cleared. If not it sets a very dangerous precedent of people adding new skyblock members for their blocks then removing them in a week or two. I'm sure actions like that will totally help the server grow right?....

 

There are still factors on main, which allow for a legal eviction without 3 days notice.
Which include 7 days of inactivity. This would more than likely be transferred IF it was to be implemented. So this really doesn’t help for the case of inactivity.

It is frustrating I get it. I really do. But I can’t see how eviction notices on skyblock would help anything. As stated above, your items are wiped when you create a new island. And I agree with strong in that 3 day eviction notices could really upset someone, and even if they are not a malicious person they may become angry and destroy many things that are not considered grief and cannot be rolled back.

It’s a -1 from me.

 

-1, the point of having this rule on main server is so that users can gather their belongings from their chests so that they can take them elsewhere.

Seeing as on skyblock your items get cleared from your inventory when you make a new island anyway, surely you might as well leave your items in the chests. What's the point of just taking them from the chests so that no one can use them at all, and sure, maybe a user had an argument and fell out with someone which lead to them being kicked from the island, but in my opinion that's just petty removing all your items so no one can use them at all.

When you play skyblock, you're invited to an island, you don't pay for any sort of plot or pay to be apart of someone's island like you do with towns on main, hence why you have no contractual claim that can be enforced in any way. Honestly, all I can see coming from this is users being given their 3 days notice, then if they don't agree they should be removed or don't agree with the eviction reason, that user just going and griefing via means of killing villagers and things similar to this. Or, if that doesn't happen and they agree to leave but want to take their items, for whatever reason, there may be disagreements on whose items are whose.

I see no positive uses for a 3-day notice that benefits anyone in any way other than someone using it to spite/ setback their former teammates because they are being evicted and want to be petty about a few items, what happens about all the blocks someone placed when they get evicted? Will they want those back too? If you're looking to play occasionally due to maybe not having many hours to play, starting your own island is probably the best bet as I imagine with limited player slots on an island, island owners would prefer to have more active players if they are playing to level their island as quickly as possible.

All in all, it's in the decision of the island owner, if having a sense of security within an island is that important to you, then just create your own and go from there.

 

-1 Although it is quite frustrating to get kicked from an island that you've worked on a lot, it is after all the owner's decision.
You should also join your friends that guarantee not kicking you and not just random players.

 

What are the current rules on contracts regarding skyblock?

It would be an easy alternative to set up a contract stating that the owner can't remove you unless 7 days of activity or what not. Then if they do remobr you, they've breached a contracts rules which the player is then able to file a complaint. This way players can have some reassurance they're not going to be kicked off unjustly.

Is that possible with the current rules?