Denied [Suggestion] - Give /tpa to everyone but add a cooldown

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  1. NossaFlossa

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    Suggestion: Give /tpa to everyone but add a cooldown

    Reason: One of the things that make new players upset is that this server is very pay to win. New players don't want to stick around where they have to pay money for everything and I think administration is starting to realize this.

    Any Other Information: I know that this was suggested already and denied but this is seriously something that should be reconsidered. If this suggestion gets denied too, please let us know why . I also think that /tpa is a utility most people do for free anyway so we're making it easier for new players starting out. A few things worth mentioning, they're already trying to reduce the amount of pay to win on the server. Take a look at SG kits; Everyone has access to them on a cooldown. Everyone has access to water on a cooldown. And saying "-1 I paid for this feature" Is just silly because people paid for water and SG kits and they are now free with a cooldown, the outcome of this has been positive. Please keep new players in mind before giving this suggestion a -1.
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    I like this suggestion (+1)
     
  3. lambiser

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    The thing is with giving the tp with a cool down (beside me being salty about my only feature going caput) is that there are plenty of people willing to tp, and there is already a cool down for the tp feature. I also feel this will add to some problems, but to each its own. But ATM, it really depends on 1. How long the cool down will be and 2. If the cool down will be removed for people with the to feature (since there is currently one)

    (-1 for now...)
     
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    If there are plenty of people willing to TP then how does it hurt for them to be able to do it themselves?

    Add to what problems? The only thing you stated were questions.

    1. The previous suggestion suggested 15 minuites as a cooldown, I think that's fair. Any time on a cooldown is better then no TP. I.e. if it had a 2 hour cooldown it would be a lot better than no TP.
    2. No the feature will not be removed because you're paying for a better version of what you would have (just like water and sg kits are now).

    If this is added it's not like you would be losing your feature that you had, you would be getting a better version of what's free. Just like the change with water, everyone who had it kept it. It didn't affect them, all it did was make the players who couldn't pay have a smaller advantage. You lost nothing. Same thing with SG kits, now they have a cooldown. It's better then nothing, I don't know if it's just me but I think that nothing is better then something. Your responce is literally not taking in consideration any new players of ECC and or the playercount.
     
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    30 minute cooldown?
     
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    That works, better than nothing.
     
  7. NossaFlossa

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    30 Minutes sounds good @JamieSinn
     
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    +1 good idea
     
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    If this is such a problem and turn off now then why wasn’t it during the peak of the server?
     
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    Agreed, was the feature made to be bought because of lag or something?
     
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    It was, though

    When I was really new I tried getting a few friends to play with me but since we couldn't really stick together it didn't work out. (Sure, could've asked for a tp I guess, but I didn't know that at the time).
     
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    I personally think that tp is much easier to abuse than SG kits/water placement eg. the fact that people can be tp’d to a pvp area without their knowledge and killed, tp’d into lava, etc. This is something that could possibly do more harm than good because without having paid the money and running the risk of losing $20 for nothing, you have less reason to care if you abuse the tp feature to troll others.
     
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    Let's ban chat and have pay commands not apply to builders because it runs the risk of them trolling and scamming reprecussion too.

    Seriously though, there's literally hundreds of basic gameplay/server features that can be abused. Builders can join towns just to grief. Builders can join the forums just to post porn. Builders can join and x-ray on the main server and earn money selling ores. And the list goes on.

    But the fact still remains that such behaviors are rarely seen. Builders rarely just join to hack, scam or cause trouble. And as far as TP goes, I've almost never seen builders who have you TP to them for a trade, erep, ect. and leave you in lava or kill you in a PvP zone - And there's no reason to indicate that there'd be an explosion in activities such as these. Putting purely theoretical/quite unlikely (and arguably minor) security concerns over quality gameplay and getting rid of a main turn-off point for newer players that significantly hurts the server is silly.
     
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    May as well add free pyro access on a cool down at this point...
     
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    I don't see a problem with that, you aren't giving feedback
     
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    May as well get good at sg at this point..
     
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    -1, I did not pay for TP only for it to be put on a cooldown.

    People can always ask someone with TP to tpa them to another player.
    I think, people should just ask for that, and if they want to be able to /tpa when they like, they buy tp.

    I don't think I've ever used /tpa or /tpahere more than once every 30 minutes anyways.
    The only suitable cooldown would be 6 hours or 12 hours.

    But that's just my opinion :p
     
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    People also didn't pay for gifts just for them to be taken away..
     
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    I currently give this a big +1

    About a year ago I would have given this the polar opposite (mostly because I was one of those "I bought the feat so it should be Extremely harder for people without the feat.")

    Now, with the "new" player count dropping (It went up, but just because old players were coming back) (right now I'm the only resident online lol) We all know that new player count is dropping. When ever I talk to new players that rage quit and never come back in the first 20 minutes of play the main reason is: "I have to pay money to place lava? / why don't I have tpa? / why can't I use an anvil?

    for the sake of less builders raging in the first 20 min of play, make tpa free with a large cool down. As KingCharlie9 said
    My final suggestion: tpa for free with a cool down of 4-6 hours

    ps: if anything in here made no sense whatever then rip me
    ps: also giving free lava with maybe x2 the cooldown as water and anvil with a 2 day countdown would be nice, but not necessary (and not what this suggestion is suggesting.)
     
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    15-30 minutes is fine. There’s no need to make it that long. Do you guys want new players to leave?
     
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