I was a hardcore ECC player for 2 months. I mined about 2-3 hrs a day and managed two towns with many members. I have given both towns away along with all my money and items. I know many players joke around when they say they are leaving but I am not and this is permanent. I am the perfect example of a new player that genuinely loved the server. After playing for a few months it quickly becomes apparent that in order to get anywhere significant it requires at least 2-3 hrs of farming/mining per day for literally 6-12 months+ I'm not saying that it should be easy to make money but needing to grind for 1.5 million ECD to get erep is not only ridiculous but completely disheartening. I am aware that there are players who literally have nothing better to do but play ECC all day everyday. If you are wondering why new players tend not to stick around long it is simply because the grinding for even basic features takes a month or more. This server could have 500+ online easy all day everyday but for some reason the server seems to not care about new players at all. This brings about my second major issue with ECC , Trust. As a new player no one trusts you and for a very good reason. I get that dealing with scamming would be a major headache for the staff but the fact the server will do literally nothing if you are scammed creates two major problems. 1. New players are treated like dirt and rarely are given the chance to rent tools or even get plots of land. 2. It creates a conflict of interest between the server and the players. The conflict of interest is that in the instance of a scam the party whom benefits the most is the server. Example being the obble eff7 destruction. Obble didn't benefit from this, he was banned. The owner of the eff7 didn't benefit from this, he lost 850k ecd in one tool. The server however, because that 850k was removed from the economy benefited because now the owner would have to grind for weeks or months again to get back where they were and probably vote everyday for the nstars. In pretty much any instance of scamming the server is the one benefiting by refusing to do anything about it and this is a very sad policy they have implemented as it will deter not only new players but also longer term players like myself. I want to end by saying I very much enjoyed my time here at ECC. I'd like to point out that I left extremely respectfully. I could have done all kinds of damage before I left but I am more honorable then a lot of people. If I get banned/forum banned for this thread it just shows that the server legitimately doesn't care about the issues facing new players. It also shows why new players rarely stay and why online numbers have sharply dropped. RIP ECC, Goodbye.
Someone post what I said in shoutbox I'm on my cellphone and have no clue how to work on safari browser lol. But somewhat responded to this. TL;DR - Very valid points, and after our EULA (which include half price feature boosters) and map changes are done we will work on new player difficulty level, however as mentioned keep in mind without a server reset/wipe economy changes 5-6 years down the road can lead to massive disaster if implemented without enormous caution and planning. The super rich would destruct the economy
Great post moo, sorry to see you going, hope this is all taken into consideration in the future to make the server more new player friendly and even any readers here could help to do that by being more helpful toward newer players on the server. 15 minutes ago - andrewkm: As mentioned there will be 50% boosters available, and in the future we will work on making things slightly less hard on the new players. However at the same time you must realize we have insanely old 15 minutes ago - andrewkm: Players who would massively benefit if the "wrong" changes were done and crash the economy. 12 minutes ago - andrewkm: Without resetting the server which I'm sure no one wants, changes towards new players can be very dangerous if not properly implemented. 11 minutes ago - andrewkm: I do welcome his thread in the suggestion section. However as always we don't want goodbye/RIP threads. Hey serve no purpose and get nothing done. 11 minutes ago - OctavianCloud: im actually kind of all for server reset myself haha but think im in the minority there 11 minutes ago - MSU_Spartans: Im going to make a goodbye thread and go out in a blaze of glory 11 minutes ago - MSU_Spartans: Because this is america 10 minutes ago - andrewkm: Once the whole EULA and store stuff is complete and we finish up mining and nether and end launch, we will focus on new players 10 minutes ago - andrewkm: Including making water much cheaper and possibly free in small quantities for new players. 9 minutes ago - andrewkm: Again though without a server reset/fresh server, changes after six years can be incredibly hard to implement without an economy crash down the road 9 minutes ago - MSU_Spartans: Andrew can you change the color of your text im using it rn :/ 8 minutes ago - andrewkm: Anyways moo is welcome to post his thread in the suggestion section. As previously mentioned we'll be focusing on new players after all our EULA and maps are complete. 8 minutes ago - 7amoodw: Too lazy to make a suggestion rn cause it's 2am but can we add a GUI to /buyfeature ? 8 minutes ago - andrewkm: Lol MSU 7 minutes ago - andrewkm: 7amood maybe far later down the road. 7 minutes ago - andrewkm: I need to get essential stuff done before making improvement - this Eula stuff has been killing our work load 7 minutes ago - andrewkm: He buyfeature command itself was so much coding. 7 minutes ago - andrewkm: The* EDIT: There ya go andrewkm, wasnt sure what all you wanted copied but there it all is, just edit my post or pm me to do so later with what you want most prominent.
The thing is, the player count *hasn't* sharply dropped, or at least since a year or so before you joined.
