Denied [Suggestion] Chicken rule update

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  1. cdlawrence

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    Suggestion: Remove rule prohibiting someone from being afk near chickens

    Whats that you say? you didnt even know that was illegal? well yes, it is.

    Problem: AFK near chickens is claimed to be illegal because it falls under 'automated farming'
    Next Problem: Given the current limit of 50 animals in a farm, each chicken laying one egg every 5 to 10 minutes (assuming our server has not adjusted the standard rate, and yes that is the standard rate based on the standard coding), each chicken will only lay 6 to 12 eggs an hour. This means the most eggs you can get in an hour is 600 and in the worst case you will get 300. So for average sake lets say you will get 450 eggs every hour. Even with an auto sell macro this will only yield you 112.50 ecd an hour. Yippy.

    Now I have been told that if I want to collect eggs I must alert/present the entire time. So if I wanted to make a lot of cakes I basically have to waste hours standing in one spot to get the eggs, THEN harvest the sugar cane, milk, and wheat needed to make them.

    TL-DR : the literal only time on the server it is illegal to be afk without some sort of money making macro going is if you happen to be near a chicken. This is dumb. The rule is to prevent auto money creation, however there are much bigger issues than someone making 112.50 ecd an hour while afk.

    Side note: my lotto macro that is legal because it involves risk makes me more money in a day than standing under a chicken farm ever could
     
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    +1 This was also legal in the past about 2 years ago when I started my egg collection.
     
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    It's more for the lag issue of the eggs
     
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  4. cdlawrence

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    So wouldnt limiting the number of chickens further or slowing the laying rate be just as effective?
     
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    Lotto never generates money though - lotto macros are allowed bc they never generate money and simply automate you giving the server a free 15%. Sure you may go positive, but you won't on the server's dime.
     
  6. cdlawrence

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    and im sure the server is really worried about that $112.50 generated an hour by chicken farms
     
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    I think it’s clear they are more worried about the lag...
     
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    I just point out bad arguments for my own amusement.

    but anyway this isn't mentioned in the rules at all, so what're they gonna do? ban you for being afk? anyone who says this is in the rules is talking nonsense and even if they changed the rules...

    banning people for afking nearish chickens best joke of 2018
     
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    It has nothing to do with being afk or autofarming it’s because of the lag created if everyone starts making chicken farms at once... Andrew said this years ago... even 1 farm of 50 chickens is enough to cause lag... now imagine if you have 10 farms going at one time.. If I remember correctly it was something to do with the Aether before it’s removal. There were massive chicken farms everywhere and at one point it crashed the server. Not sure how it would effect the main server though.
     
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    Several staff have stated it's not allowed. That was after discussing with with other staff. I'm sure you know that the wiki isn't end all be all especially when it's a rule that's just recently been something needing to be focused on.
     
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    IIRC the rule used to be 16 chickens per chunk and this caused less lag. I don't the the reasoning behind this, I just know it is what used to be the rules.
     
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    Okay? And?

    Let me stop you there, because that's actually nonsense. The rules on the wiki are the end all be all when it comes to rules. That's literally the entire point of having our awful extended extremely-specific rule-list that we can't get rid of.

    If something is not listed there it is not a rule. Several staff members in agreement about this being a rule does not make this a rule, it makes several staff members wrong. Just look at SG boosting... lots of staff would have said and had said that it was illegal and all of them were wrong.

    Now, they could make this a rule by editing the rules. They haven't done this though.

    Even if they did, it would be a joke. Banning people because they happen to afk near mobs? Please.
     
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    Damn... I like the new Nicit...

    Just saying
     
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    As Nicit said, not an actual rule. However, if you cause lag to the server from the eggs - we'll simply kill the chickens.

    Your risk.
     
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