As of currently, the BA/C forum rules are: "Ban Appeal and Complaint Rules Ban Appeals and Complaints are to be left clear of unnecessary posts. If the original post does not pertain to you or you do not have constructive information to add, then do not reply to the post. All irrelevant posts are either spamming, trolling, bumping, or back seat modding (mini-modding). These are against the rules, and are punishable. When replying to a post that does pertain to you, keep it professional and to the point. At no time are you to start or engage in an argument, flame wars are also against the rules. You can disagree and still be polite and respectful about it." I suggest changing the rules to this: "Ban Appeal and Complaint Rules Ban Appeals and Complaints are not be posted on, unless it's by a staff member or user requested by staff to post on the particular thread or providing additional evidence. When replying to a thread that you've been asked by staff to reply to, keep it professional and to the point. At no time are you to start or engage in an argument, flame wars are also against the rules. You can disagree and still be polite and respectful about it." Why? You shouldn't be posting on a complaint when it has nothing to do with you - let staff do their jobs. If you really feel like the information you have to add is relevant, you may PM a staff member, not clog up the BA/C forum with posts. The complaints forum gets clogged with not only useless trolly posts, but other useless posts as well, where players say "This is relevant:" - Whether a post is relevant or not is very hard to determine, especially when you have some posts in the middle between irrelevant and relevant, let alone the term "Irrelevant" is very broad. Determining whether a complaint or appeal is relevant to a certain player is much more easier for staff. Anyway, to make it short, my suggestion is to ban posts on Ban Appeals/Complaints that have absolutely nothing to do with the said user whether they say it's "relevant" or not.
-1 one occasionally has something that SHOULD be posted on a complaint. Staff, no matter how amazing that are, cannot always know every person who has evidence. For example: someone spams a server url at spawn. Someone files a complaint with no evidence. Staff cannot ask someone to post evidence as yhey have no idea who saw. But I happened to have a screenshot so I upload. This is one of many scenarios I can think of. Leave the rule as is. If people use common sense this will not be an issue.
I don't think this is necessary. Instead of changing the rules, we should actually enforce them and provide forum warnings for irrelevant posts. As for @CrazySwagMaster1's post - if this rule was made, you could always file your own complaint.
Exactly. If there is only one issue someone does not deserve to have more than one complaint against them. One suffices. After that it accomplishes nothing other than ruining their name. Wheras one, merged complaint with evidence from many users will not hurt them as much, while still assisting staff in doing their job. Sure. This rule should be enforced, just as much as any. But it does not need be changed.
Forum Rules already are enforced though - You'll get warned for posting on a complaint. Hell, I was even banned for breaking too many forum rules not too long ago - you wouldn't be seeing that if they weren't enforced. Anyway, I don't see how a dismissed complaint "ruins" someones name - unless people are too stupid to actually look at the complaint, which I doubt.
Some do, some don't. I know that @Riggs316 and @oxwood2 warned, but many others don't and post "Next person to post gets a forum warning" instead of handing them out. If there's a problem with complaints, enforce the rules already in the books first.
I'd say those represent a minority of cases - from my experience, in the large majority of cases, posts were deleted and the user was warned; No trace of anything. I think that's how you guys are getting the misconception that these rules aren't exactly enforced.
I never said that weren't? I'm simply saying there is no purpose to have an additional thread for the same complai,t. That's my argument. With that exception, you'd have my +1
I was responding to Suburb regarding him stating these rules weren't enforced. I guess I'll make an exception for adding evidence too. Added.
+1 If you post on a complaint, are your not the victim, been tagged for additional evidence or the accused, you should be warned. Too many people here like to post their own opinion of the accused when nobody cares about there opinion on the matter. If you think you have evidence but dont want to get warned, you can contact a staff member and either they can post the evidence or give you permission to. Simple.
Found this old suggestion, I think its points ring true with our current situation: www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/suggestion-ban-appeals-complaints.116514 @TaylorBros22
Complaints and Appeals are flooded with numerous pointless posts every day which isn't a good thing...?
Personally I don't see this as a result of unclear rules but rather ineffective punishments. I'll be looking into reworking the whole system soon... clearly a system where some users are accumulating nearly 40 warnings is not working.
+1 People do need to be held accountable. Don't feel like making a seperate post just for this.... was going to make a suggestion at some point. Why not use the same warn system we have in game for on forums? 5 warns=temp'd? Or something similar
Good to know and I'm glad to say I haven't needed to find out the hard way ignore my suggestion then please
I mean, my argument is, we have to start warning for more things - the current system hasn't been that effective as a way to prevent irrelevant posts. Might be a little harsh, but I guess forum banning more people with tons of forum warnings like you did to me might work, lol - people start to see the real consequences when you actually take away their access to ECC's services for a while.
