Accepted special spawner issue

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  1. strongpelt

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    Well, not using the normal format for this sorry.
    Its more of a 'what are we gonna do' thing.

    Okay so when skyblock first released everyone had their own nether island. on these islands there were spawners. blaze, wither skeleton, magma cube, and ghast. oh and normal skeleton too.

    Now I noticed spawners can be placed. I reached out to jamie and asked if the special spawners could be placed. He said he'd prefer they not be placed. alright. I see the point in this. fully. A lot of users didn't get the chance to get these so they are 'unfair' in a way. However a few people did work pretty hard to grab these, and had no idea they were going away in the first place. Basically I want something done. Theres 3 options I have for these special spawners.

    1. Let us place them
    This is obviously the least favorite one, as again, very few people got these. This also makes these rare though. wouldn't flood the economy too much. But again, unfair as a monopoly could happen.

    2. Ban the spawners or remove them from the people that have them
    This one seems easy. either block the placement of any spawner that's not a blaze spawner, or remove the special spawners from people who managed to get them so there's no way they can be placed in secret.

    3. Let the people that got them trade them in for something.
    This one shows a little bit of fairness to the people that worked to get those spawners. They didn't ask for them to not be able to everyone. They didn't ask for the nether to change. They worked for those spawners. Now what they could get for turning them in? I'm not sure. Skyblock key maybe? Or maybe dirt? Maybe a few mob drops for the spawner it was? (wither skelly gets bones and like a few wither skulls, magma magma cream, ect)

    Basically those are the options I see right now for this bit of a hiccup with spawners. I'd love to see what the community would like with these options though.
    Please comment! Let me know what you guys think! Or heck, if you got another suggestion for these spawners post it too!
     
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    NO, do not allow people to use these.

    "people worked hard for these special spawners"
    The only reason people were able to get these so early was because of a server shop that wasn't intended to give you access to obsidian for so cheap; so early.

    Even if they did deserve to have them- they are no longer obtainable giving them an unfair advantage from everyone else.

    Just like every other unintended skyblock "feature/mechanic" that was removed; the players who profited from it had those things removed from their access as well. Just like the spawners should be removed.

    Completely remove all "special" spawners (wither, ghast, magma) They shouldn't of been in our skyblock in the first place since they are very unhealthy to our economy.


    EDIT: IIRC someone said AEM had no spawners at all- I'd be for this idea. Spawners kind of make mob drops too easy to obtain.
     
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    I'd prefer option 2 or 3, if the special spawners stayed it would kill the value of beacons with the wither skeletons lol.
     
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    My questions are this:
    1. When and if I ever grow up and am able to get to harder challenges will I have the same opportunity as all to complete them with these spawners gone?
    2. Am I ever able to build a beacon (or whatever it is that these spawners provide) with these now gone - or do I have to wait til the end of the year and hope to be able to be the lucky ones to grab these up.
    3. I assume that there is not much chance of getting blaze rods in the nether from the chat I have been reading and wonder why those were chosen to be able to be placed and not the others
    4. Did anyone even figure out how these select few were able to construct these portals, be lucky enough to get a silk touch pick and find every spawner in the short amount of time that they were there?
    Sorry for my stupid questions, however, this gamemode is fairly new to me and I am still trying to figure out to complete some of the challenges (in other words - I am not competing but playing to learn and have fun)
    Even with my complete lack of understanding, I tend to feel that the players that have these may deserve a percentage of the loot taken.... but how do you control a player not stealing them from you and then how is that dealt with by our staff?
     
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    Finding them? Im talking about the first nether. it was two tiny islands. Private tiny islands at that. couldn't miss them if you tried. As far as obby Goes I think some people got some from a challenge. Or the store when it was up.

    those are natural in mc. the other spawners you dont really find in vanilla mc.

    You get nstars from killing a wither. Witherskulls drop from witherskelletons which naturally spawn around nether fortresses. You don't need a spawner for them. Though it would probably help.

    Currently only like 3 people have these special spawners. cause they came from the very first nether that was only up for like 3 days i think. maybe less. So yes basically if these are removed your still gonna have natural spawned wither skeletons and other mobs so you should be able to have the same chance as everyone else.
     
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    You are such an awesome player - thank you for taking time to explain this to me in such detail!
     
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    I am one of those who has the special spawners, and I completely agree that all spawners (Including Blaze) should be removed from Skyblock, Although yes I did work hard and would like some sort of compensation like resources (Not necessarily wither heads).

    I'm in favor of Option 3 the most but option 2 works as well.
     
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    Currently they're useless as you cannot place them.
     
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    They can be placed in the nether.
     
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    Blaze can, I'm not aware if the others can be.
     
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    They can (unless you changed that the last few days)

    I would prefer them being turned in, and get something in return (forced to turn them in, not choice). This is also what Jamie mentioned was an option previously.

    Or being able to change the spawner type in nether by right clicking with spawn eggs. Making it available to all, and players can keep them. (Shouldn't be able to play on island, that way it comes with a risk)
     
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    I think all can be placed. Including Wither Skeleton Spawners.
     
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    Having spawners made available for all would break Skyblock, that's why I'd prefer them being turned in.
     
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    First time playing skyblock so can't really argue. Just through PvP and no protection could help, but guess still too OP.

    To make something clear they shouldt be kept however. Something should happen.
     
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    I'm on the side of no spawners (or making it impossible to place them which accomplishes the same thing). They really can mess up an economy. Even in the nether, its pretty easy to find an isolated and enclosed location to use them if you wanted. Would be happy to give up mine.

    Plus, still hold out hope new players might join the server for SB. I think there are some who do try new SB servers from time to time. ECC can stand out by being better thought out and challenging as opposed to one of the myriad of OP servers out there. Furthermore, knowing only some of the early players have spawners could deter new people.

    Just my 2 cents
     
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    - Spawner usage blocked in all world on SkyBlock.
    - Nether has been reset to remove any spawners that users may have placed.
    - There was no possibility of placing spawners in the Spawn, Island World or End. (Correct me if I'm wrong someone, @314? @strongpelt @JamieSinn)

    I opted not to use WorldEdit to scan the entire Nether world due to wanting to preserve natural spawners.
    Instead we are going through a fresh reset.
     
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