Restructure the Tag System.

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  1. Enegek

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    Andrew has admitted that this system would work, but I don't quite understand why it shouldn't be used. This would allow for every tag to remain the same. If you are aiming for equality, this is by far the best way to go about it.
     
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    I'd personally like this system much better than the new one but as Andrew has stated, they've already worked tons on this new system.
     
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    This would make sooooo much more sense. With this new system, you can get VIP with $190, yet players will $500+ will end up with $$$ or $$$$ because they bought plus packages rather than just single $15-$60 ones. It rewards people more for donating less but with more packages, a little odd in my opinion.

    EDIT: This just came to mind

    If VIP costs less to achieve, people may donate less because some people donate for the tags just as much as the features themselves. I'm pretty sure that people have donated a final $100 on donations just to push themselves into the [VIP] tag realm and this package system could/will revert this
     
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    Many people who already have VIP are going to be affected more. Like ExtCommands++ and Investigator which is $250 but only 2 packages, which is crazy. Instead of having $$ or $$$, you would Only have $.
     
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    This is really unfair
     
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    er thats actually four packages. I have Extcommands++ You get 1 Package for ExtCommands, 1 for ExtCommands+ and 1 more For ++. So Investigator + Extcommands++ = 4 Packages.
     
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    I thought upgrades didnt count. So if you had Multihome+++ (75 homes) that would all be ONE package.
     
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    Q: Can you please count upgrades as packages.
    A: The way our permission system is setup, this is absolutely impossible and we will not re-write 3 years of server work for this. For those familiar with how server's work, I'll give you an example. The water feature is given to you as the "water" subgroup. Once upgraded to waterplus you lose the "water" subgroup and receive the "waterplus" subgroup. The way our donation tags will now work will be in the form of counting your donation subgroups.
     
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    Wait what??
     
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    Ext++ = 1 package
    Mcmmoplus x3 = 1 package

    Every donation you have is a package, plus versions don't count.
     
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    ;-; Welp, down to $$$ for me...
     
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    No kidding :p
    (I go down to there too :p)
     
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    I would much rather see this system used for donation tags rather than this new package system. I won't personally be affected because I will still be [$$$$], but I know that many VIPs will lose their tag and go back down even though they've spent tons of money on the server. People shouldn't be able to donate $180 and get a donation rank that people who have donated over $500 don't have.
     
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    mcmmoplus doesn't count as a package, custom tags and ecodollars don't either
     
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    +1227, I think that this would allow us to have $ ranks the old way - giving each "package" a point amount. I wish we could do this. Either way I'm getting $$$$ so I don't mind :p (the new system $15 til VIP, old $91. I kinda like the new system xD. But I do want it fair - even if that means having $91 til VIP)
     
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    I don't know how much control you have over your database. I suspect it is a lot. All you need is a table called
    PackageWeight.

    Create Table PackageWeight { PackageID int, Weight int}

    Then you do a join with this table and sum the Weights instead of count the packages. Assuming the data for packages for a person is stores in a table something like:

    Create Table CharacterPackages { CharacterID int, PackageID }

    select sum(weight)
    from CharacterPackages cp
    join PackageWeight pw on pw.PackageID=cp.PackageID
    where CharacterID=@CharacterID

    where @CharacterID is the value of the identity field for a character in the database.

    The current database statement is

    select count(*) from CharacterPackages
    where CharacterID=@CharacterID

    The number of packages in PackageWeight is very small and so the additional join should be negligible in processing especially if you calculate the value once on login to the server and just save it in the online character record.
     
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    I think andrew should just put the old system in place it may be more work for him but honestly i know people that donated just to have $'s and i liked haveing it because it showed my dedication to the server. So he might be loseing donations and it kinda made me sad that all my work for my $'s got put in the trash. Just a thought.
     
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