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  1. kconahan

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    Suggestion: I think that ranks should cost more.

    Reason: the ranks mayor and president mean nothing now. There are way to many mayors and presidents. These ranks are wat to easy to get. Most people don't even work hard to get them, they just donate 30$ for other users in exchange for money and boom.. You have prez. It is also crashing the real estate market because people are buying residents mayor for there town at the cost of 85k.. Towns used to be worth 80k and now there worth about 30k. This is bad because we have a huge number of mayors who didnt do squat for the rank. I my self see mayors and residents as the same rank. There is also to many presidents who donated or won lotto once and got it easy.

    These ranks are also easily obtainable by farming for a few hours.

    The ecc community is being flooded with new mayors and presidents every day and this should stop.

    My suggestion is to raise the cost of mayor to 150k and president to 320k.

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  2. CapitanRedRoach

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    I see only one problem with this, it would be unfair to raise the prices now because of the fact that all the people that have already gotten it to the people that haven't would be a huge gap, their fore being more work where you and I, and a lot of others have already gotten the ranks.
     
  3. kconahan

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    Life isn't fair. A long time ago I could auto farm 60k of wheat with one flick of a switch. Pumpkins used to be $2. And ect.. Lots of people could get mayor in a few hours back in the day. I don't see how this would be any different.
     
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    Getting money has been getting more difficult lately, there's no need to make the gap even wider, it will only scare users off.
     
  5. kconahan

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    How is money getting harder to make? I can still make 18k an hour farming. That means that u can make 90k in 5 hours and buy mayor. Sure it's a bit slower than it used to be but 18k an hour is t half bad. Making 18k an hour you could go from resident to president in just 15 hours
     
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    Not everyone can make 18k an hour.
     
  7. kconahan

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    Yes they can. I make 18k an hour with my melon sword. But you can easily make 16-17k an hour pumpkin farming
     
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    This is a terrible, terrible idea. I'm not going to elaborate all exact reason why, some users have already posted some reasons.

    I myself, have been mayor for TWO YEARS. TWO. FREAKING. YEARS. That's how terrible at money making I am. For the love of god if president was 320k I would just quit, it wouldn't be worth my time even TRYING to get that much. Currently I only have 20k and it's gonna take a LOOONNGGG time before I get 180k, unless someone is quitting and is like "Hey who wants my money?" or if I win the lottery, both are HIGHLY unlikely, especially considering I'm not even entering the lottery.

    Btw.. NOT EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A MELON SWORD OR PUMPKIN AXE AND A 200 X 200 X 100290192102910 FARM. Okay? Get that through your mind alright? Processing? Alright, processed? OKAY THEN. That's not a retaliation, not EVERYONE can have what you have. There are plenty of users who don't have access to these things.

    EDIT: Adding on. Explain to me, how I'm suppose to get 350k for a melon sword, to farm, if I can't even get 180k IN TWO YEARS to get president? HMM? Plus, if I had 350k anyway WOULDN'T YOU THINK I'D JUST GET THE RANK? Yeah. Now that's it.

    Rant, over.
     
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    There was an explosions in towns and president because of the obtuse prices on melons. I do agree somewhat that town are too cheap now and it's too easy to obtain one.
     
  10. MsMoofin

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    I have a pumpkin axe. In 40 minutes I can only make $560-$1200. You are forgetting that not everyone has fly, either. Or hordes of speed potions (which still wouldn't add up to the speed of fly.)

    As well, in 20 minutes of farming melons (with a pumpkin axe; hardly slower than a normal diamond sword, but giving me whole melons), I only make about $560. One hour would be around $1680.

    Don't forget that erepairs cost money, too, and not everyone owns erepairs or has a friend who will do it for free or cheap.


    Melon Swords are "rare" (bull crap, really, if you look at the thread in General section), and only the rich (often from lotto, hoarders, , people with tons of free time, or the few scarce people who actually know how to run spawn shops), suck-ups, and friends of MSword owners have the swords. Don't forget those lotto winners you mentioned, getting MSwords...

    Fly is expensive when you look at the real money tag. Buying Fly with EcoDollars (with the last conversion/ratio I heard) is over 400k.

    Not everyone has a fast, or new, enough computer to jump into full-sized town farms, either.


    You see a lot of new Mayors and Presidents because there are constantly new users joining the server. It isn't that the prices are low, it is that there is constantly flow of new users, creating more money in the system, creating more trades, more products, etc.

    As well, MSwords and Melons are bringing in a crap ton of money (that needs a new dump, or prices lowered), which is being spread around via lotto, to friends, or from kind rich users.
     
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    You know, often times people calculate other's abilities to make money by their own. I can make 18k an hour, if I really want to, but that doesn't mean a builder or resident can. I own a melon sword, vast amounts of land, and materials/resource wise I am one of the more well off people on ECC. I do sometimes forget that other people have to start with nothing just like I did and some of them take a very long time to figure out what they are doing.

    This is in my opinion evidenced by the number of beggars that ECC Experiences daily. Begging has basically become a legit form of making money that way too many people take part in. I have to say I have never asked how much these people make but if RL beggar's incomes is anything to go by it is probably a decent amount. I have heard of Residents, who have provided proof, that they have been resident for a year. It has been a year and they are still not a mayor. I'm just saying as long as there are people like that out there then it can't be that easy to get.

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    This would never work, some people can't afford melon swords or pumpkin axes. Some don't even have farms. This is a terrible idea.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with rank prices. I've been trying for almost a year to get mayor. If anything resident is too cheap.
     
  14. kconahan

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    I want to touch on a few points you made. But first, thank you for this very well thought out and organized feed back. I appreciate it.

    The first topic you brought up is the one about how much money you can make using a pumpkin axe as I did forget that it is much slower without fly. That being said I just tested it with out fly and make 12k in an hour, sprinting the entire time and eating when ever necessary. This is still a huge amount of money if you work hard and for a long time.

    The second thing I want to talk about is the part about all the new players coming into the economy and there for making more money and products that go into the economy. This is also true, however it doesnt justify the amount of begging that occurs on ecc. I myself find it extremely hard to give mayors the respect they deserve when I can't tell from there tag if they got mayor the legit way by farming or mining ect.. Or just had some other wealthy player buy it for them for there town.
    This in my opinion is something that wealthy players created that backfired on the economy. There are constantly wealthy players who want more land and don't want to pay high prices and there are always lazy people whodont want to ear. 85k by themselves who are begging to get mayor for there town.
    What this means is there is a massive amount of real estate in the economy and a massive amount of mayors, both of which crash the real estate market in different ways. The first is the amount of real estate out there that no1 wants anymore making the price of towns go down dramatically. The second is the amount of mayors out there who think there to cool for school because of there tag and don't buy plots in towns.
    When ever I do /list in game I look at how many of each rank there are and a small part of me dies because there are about 30 presidents, 3 tycoons, 1 ecoleader, 60 mayors, 45 residents and 10 builders. I my self havnt sold a plot in a few months.


    Revan thank you for the great well thought out reply.

    I understand there are some people who have been resident for a year or even builders, who just take a long time to figure out the economy and how to make money here on ecc. These are the people who keep the real estate market going, these are the people we want more of. Because often builders and residents are the people who buy plots. I have people in my town who have been on ecc for almost as long as I have, living in my town and who have never ranked up.

    What I'm saying is that with the huge amount of land, and the huge amount of people who don't want to buy plots, your lucky if you sell 5 plots in a week.
     
  15. kconahan

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    In my opinion, ranks are for people who work hard to get them. Not people who beg.

    If you worked hard for 20 hours you could have president
    And your telling me that for almost a year you have been constantly farming? I just can't believe you. Because if you had you would be an ecoleader by now.
     
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    Ok first off, please stop raging.

    So I realize that not everyone is as well off as me. Now lets ask our selves, why is that? Why is he so much richer than me?
    Ill tell you. One reason is because irl I happen to be somewhat well off and can afford to spend a fair amount of money on donation features. Another reason is because Im good with money and know how to make it fast. Another reason is because I WORK MY ASS OFF FARMING ALL DAY. please realize that farming for hour apon hour is not a walk in the park. However this is the only legit way of making actual money in ecc and I know it

    Now my advise to you is to stop wasting your time posting rage messages about how little money you have and get farming.

    Do not post another rage message on my thread please as I don't want it to become a flame thread.
     
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    You may have to work YOUR ass off farming all day, while a resident has to work THEIR ass off farming for a month...
     
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    With out any donation features I am still capable of making 12k an hour farming. If a resident worked for a month working lets say 4 hours a day the given user would have $1,440,000... Which is enough to buy ecoleader if they desired. I think that some people idea of "hard work" is different from mine. But honestly that's just other people's problem. Making money isn't easy to do.
     
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    "OMG THERE ARE SO MANY MAYORS AND PREZIDENTS ON THE SERVER!?!?!?!"

    Just shut up lol
     
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    Alright, I'd like to see you make 12k in an hour pumpkin farming, without fly using a regular diamond axe, and not repairing it yourself, but from buying it from someone else.
     
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