Denied Potion trade sign Ids

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  1. FollowerJesus

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    Suggestion:
    That potions are added to the trade signs, this would help alot of other people out including me
    Reason:
    Say a person wants a healing potion... they don't have to buy or farm netherwarts, buy or go to the nether for blaze, buy gold and transfer them into gold nuggets, then farm mellons... way too much work for people. And this would be a quick way for builders or res. to get money. fetching stuff for people. Then the people that fetched get money and the person that gets the stuff can make potions and sell them
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  2. Mcguy65

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    This broke a while ago.. it's our trade sign plugin it self that is broken with the ids
     
  3. FollowerJesus

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    Well then fix the plugin.
     
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    Shit I wish..
     
  5. FollowerJesus

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    Ikr. It may take a while but thats what devs are for right?? Coding or establishing plugins
    Or find a plugin that goes right with it... I bet I'm not the first to address it.
     
    #5 FollowerJesus, Dec 27, 2017
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    In a previous suggestion of essentially the same thing, I think Jamie said they now have the same id number and boonked the trade sign thing
     
    #6 Jdawger, Dec 27, 2017
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    When I try to put potions into a trade sign... it does not work. There must be something wrong with your code, some kind of bug.

    EDIT: So trade signs don't work with it?
     
    #7 FollowerJesus, Dec 27, 2017
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    That is correct. It used to be coded where potions are called “hpot” and “h2pot” etc, but they are all called “potion” now.
     
  9. LJKAzrael

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    I don't foresee this being fixed until we fully transition to a plugin that works with NBT (non-binary tags). I believe the current system still works based on metadata. This may be sooner than later as snapshots with only nbt data do exist and it is the future for minecraft.

    For now the focus is most likely on skyblock and 1.13 update. If this is added to the list it will be near the bottom as potions are used by very few, features negate much of their necessity.
     
  10. FollowerJesus

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    Why did they change it away from hpot and h2pot... It just makes it more work.
     
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    The short story:
    Mojang changed it and ECC was forced to accept it.

    The long(er) story:
    Mojang changed potions to no longer have meta IDs. Previously each potion (and its extended/amplified modifiers) each had a unique meta ID, which meant that it was possible to assign a specific name (e.g. h2pot). Potions now use NBT tags, which are handled very differently and simply aren't compatible with how the system for item short names works (i.e. using IDs and meta IDs).



    * Named Binary Tags, they are binary. :p
     
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    This is understood...but is there no alternative to make purchasing/selling potions easier? (ie in an automated fashion LIKE trade signs)
     
  14. FollowerJesus

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    I will be looking or a plugin that you could put into the server and if I do find one I will post it here
    ;)

    I agree with stig, there has got to be a plugin out there... I know there are diffrent kinds of trade signs... you could have 2 kinds of trade signs correct
     
    #14 FollowerJesus, Dec 28, 2017
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    2 out of 3 is pretty close.
     
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    Yes. However, I'd like to point out that adding a completely different plugin just for potions is simply not worth it. How many trade ads are buying or selling potions these days?

    ...rhetorical question, Pivillean knows. I searched for all trade ads containing the words "pot(ion)s" and "poti(on(s))" since October 1st, 2017.
    Code:
    eccbot@alpha:~/logs$ grep '\bpot[is]' 2017-1*.log | grep -F '[Tr]'|wc -l
    150
    
    Two frequently repeated ads aren't related to actual potion trading:
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    Hiring sapling planters, saplings, food and speed pots supplied. $1200 per double row
    Many farms for food, 200x100 cocoa farm, fishing towers, potions lab, smelt room, mining portal, town mcmmo, and discord!
    
    I decided to exclude them from the number of valid potion-sale-related ads:
    Code:
    eccbot@alpha:~/logs$ grep '\bpot[is]' 2017-1*.log | grep -F '[Tr]' | grep -v "potions lab" | grep -v "sapling planters" | wc -l
    107
    
    107 trade ads about potions in almost three months is - IMO - not sufficient motivation to add a completely new trading plugin just for potions.
     
  17. stigarose

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    I see your point BUT, i don't bother advertising because doing LIVE trades is a PAIN in the BUTT! I would totally advertise sale of potions if I could sell them when I could be afk/offline like a STORE.

    I get your logic, i think we all know you're a genius :) BUT Pi's data on this is not adequate to deny potion sales because putting up trade ads to sell potions is dumb (in my opinion).
     
  18. FollowerJesus

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    Why would people be selling potions on trade ads if you cant put them on trade signs
     
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    Agreed
     
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    Potions will not be added back to trade signs due to NBT data. Until we replace trade signs as a whole, they are not possible.
     
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