Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4 more

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

I think its taking advantage of people who are unaware. For exampl, I had no idea what the server store was until I got resident. And even then I knew very little about it. The prices in people's shops were all I knew. Should it be illegal? No. How can you regulate that? Should people be more informed? Yes very much so.

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

Its the customers fault for not knowing what the price of an item is. There are many people that sell glowstone at $10 per when its worth $3.5 at the server store.

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

In this situation I believe it is best to use the phrase "caveat emptor", latin for "let the buyer beware".

It is the responsibility of the consumer to know the prices of things going in the market. The way to find out is to simply look around a bit before buying large quantities of a specific item. In reality people buy things for dirt cheap and sell them for high prices all the time, the thing about it is that the informed consumers do not participate in the market for that product. When the people pricing things up have too much excess, they start dropping prices to match the demand. It's simple economics on a... ahem... Economy server.

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

Supply and demand buddy just like I told you in game. If I sell something for a price higher than the server store and people aren't buying it, obviously I will lower my price. As it stands, players are buying it so I'm going to continue to sell it at the price point we have all agreed to set.

My question is why are you so bent out of shape about it? Seems like a good deal for you if you want to sell it cheaper than all of us.

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

i think its wrong but im going to add a few server items to my store with just a little price hike 5%-10%

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

i have totally been kept in the dark on this apparently.. :l i didn't even know there was a server XP store :l... might i ask where that is? is that the bookshelf shop near server block shop?

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

So just a hypothetical question. Would you have the same issue with it if exp was not available in the server store?

That would be similar to diamonds. There are people who buy all of the diamonds and hoard them hoping to drive the price up. Is that unethical or wrong?

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

I just checked the bookshelf "server store for XP", and XP is $10 for 1 how are people selling for more then that.. because i just checked in spawn shop, and most are $5-7.5

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

WAIT.. WHERE IS THE SERVER STORE? LOL I WISH I KNEW WHAT THIS WAS..

oh and srry for the caps lock lol

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

Honestly, I think the people who buy this and sell it for $3.00 are still doing a favor to the comunity. Do you think a builder/resident wants to drop $3,200.00 on 2,000 glowstone? Probably not. However the quantity of 64 is still more than $3.00 at $3.20 per glowstone. The players in a position to buy and stock an item, then take time to update signs in the store are offering a cheaper price to those who can't afford such high quantity buys.

Business works exactly like this in real life. In fact real life products are made to break after a limited time so you have no choice to buy another, this applies to countless products. I don't think the players in ECC are saying "F them", but certainly saying "Thank-you!". People have used very dirty tricks in ECC such as "Pay you $1.00 every click!" when it actually charges them $100.00. As well as donation signs that may not be properly posted as donations. There have been plenty of "higher than server store" prices.

My personal view is... if it's something that's really needed on the server, don't put it in the server store. Such as Diamonds (already not in the server stores), Gold, Iron, EXP, and perhaps something else that's high in demand. Why can people not have a free economy?

I don't see you commenting on the people who charge over $100,000 for the Eff5 axes when just a few weeks ago they were only $40,000. Or when those people in auction pay over $1,000 for a diamond block, when it's clearly cheaper from trade signs. And the most extreme I have seen within the last month... A single diamond auction for $1,000.00.

Bottom line is, it's an Economy Server! This means users make their own prices, the buyer can shop around or ask others for approximate values. Also, Andrewkm could advertise reminders for the server stores.

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

Actually, come to think of it... I even remember Andrew not only announcing to everyone when he was changing prices, but sending teleports to everyone who was online to the server store.


How about the pumpkin farms that people pay other people $1.00 per pumpkin when /sell hand is $2.00.

Or someone paying $6,000 to place dirt over a 200x200 farm (takes 1 person over 9 hours).

How about sending people to mine in the wild and telling them they need to give half of what they find, and taking diamonds from them directly.

There are many, many scenarios that you can call "dirty business". Especially when it's often the more experienced players helping new players get started. This is however a "Hardcore Economy Server" and should reflect real life economy to it's fullest.

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

If people are willing to buy it, then so be it, I don't care.

I'm not the one telling them a good price to buy it at. If they decide it seems like it's a good price, then they should have all right to take it without being called ignorant for just being a bit behind on the fact it should be much cheaper. If the customer is happy, why should I care?

This is an economy server. If you think the people are being taken advantage of, then don't. On an economy server, if you are not aware of the economy of certain items like EXP, you shouldn't be buying them. If you wing it and hope it's a good price when it's actually a horrid one, then you should probably not be on an economy server. It's the customers business to figure out whether or not it's a good price. Again, if the customer is happy, why should I care? If the customer is not happy, maybe they should pay attention to what they are buying. The people selling these items are in no way to blame, they did not in any way force these people to buy these items, it's merely the customers choice.

Edit: Sure, these happy customers gave these people a lot more money then they deserved, so what? What's telling these people who are so careless with their money won't do something stupid like it later? Money goes around in the economy, why is that a problem... The money is disappearing to the server store, it's just one of those "money dumps" that the server needed. The only other issue I see here is people hoarding the money and never giving it out, in which case, it's still not a problem. Remember what I said about these people being careless with their money anyway? Eventually, even without this "problem", it will still cause the same exact problems. I see nothing wrong with people doing this.

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

Where is the server store located?

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

Well, technically there are several. (Different ones for different items.) They are all located around the same area at spawn, they should be fairly easy to find, just look around a bit. (I'm not sure the exact directions, lol, I always use /warp (Donation Feature))

 

Re: Poll: Is it "wrong" to buy from the server and resell 4

I'm not taking it personally so there is no hate between us. You're entitled to your opinion. I can tell you that I haven't once bought xp from the server to put in my trade signs. All of the xp that I sell was either obtained via mobs, or bought from other players trade signs.