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I AM NOT AFRIAD TO SAY THAT I AM FRIENDS WITH BRYCEY365
However the bulling is mainly 2-5 people who do it the most, who cant get over a tiny thing, and/or does it because theu want to fit i, so they try to find ANYTHING that he does and complain about it.
He has truely tried/has changed, and evreyone just needs to accept it

 

I will try to stray from negativity as much as possible. Here goes

If you have done someone wrong, most likely that someone will not want to be positive to you as well. I highly doubt there is any person just being negative to be negative or being rude just because.

After all, do unto others as you would want done unto yourself. Do something wrong to someone and it comes back at you.

I don't know what he did to upset people but I'm pretty sure there is a reason behind it.

We can only hope that brycey has decided to steer away from doing negative things that upset others and be a more positive role model.

 

I'm going to be completely honest here. I have no bias towards Brycey because I do not have any negative nor positive situations caused by him happen to me.

Brycey has only been getting so many negative comments because of past actions. I have seen people complain and complain about brycey for things they wouldn't care if other people did. For example, he will break blocks next to spawn in the mining world from spawn. Sure, people complain about it for everyone, but for brycey, he will just get flamed and flamed and flamed for no reason. People say they will report him for it despite it not being against the rules, they are simply trying to annoy him and bully him because their opinion about every one of his actions is biased.

Part of what makes their opinions so biased is not only their bad experience with the user, but the fact that they know that a lot of people dislike him and so they know that by bullying him they might even get support for it. I see groups of 4-6 people bullying brycey all at once. One time, Brycey called them bullys for it and he was exactly correct, they were being bullys. Then, they just said something like "We are a bullys? Look who's talking.".

Brycey is just a normal player that has caused problems in the past. Just like some other users that used to play on the server which I won't list here, he gets banned just once or twice more than the average user, and everybody just... Hates him.

I have recently had a discussion about this with another user and I specifically asked him what Brycey has done wrong since his last ban. The only thing he had done "wrong" was not against the rules and is in fact something many many users do. It may be a pain when someone does it, but the flaming Brycey got for it was far too much for what it was.


I seriously want the community to stop bullying users when they did nothing wrong. Let go of past experiences, so what if he "made a user leave"? Just forget it and have a clean slate with him. How would you feel if you got banned, got unbanned and then was treated like you were just some punching bag for people to punch every chance they get when you have done nothing wrong? I believe in second chances, third chances, even forth chances. If he can change, let him stay, and leave him alone. So far, I don't think he's done much wrong since his last ban from a month or two ago. If he actually does something wrong, report him, stop going on about how much you hate him and just report him. There is no reason anyone should ever get as much flaming as brycey gets. Just because someone has treated you that way, doesn't mean you should treat them that way back. He doesn't deserve to be treated that way. Punishment on this server comes through the /ban and /kick commands, he never deserves flaming. Nobody does. This is why we have a punishment system on the server. He has served his punishment given to him by the staff, he deserves no more from your flaming.


Edit: I see a lock to this thread coming any moment now. This thread is prone to flaming not only the OP, but Brycey as well...

 

I agree with this so much. Brycey is being bullied for more than his actions, but his age. I have seen some saying that they don't want a 12 year old being a mod (Which he has applied). Age is a very small part about getting mod. And who says that brycey won't be a good mod? He, in my opinion, had a well done application, and I do believe that he has changed. To all of those that are negative to brycey, just keep your thoughts to yourselves.

 

The user in question has done many very annoying things in past, but that is the past. I agree people should stop bullying him for these actions, but that said there are consequences for your actions. Brycey will never be mod and he needs to accept that. We can’t set a precedent of allowing users who have been banned 7, 8, 9 times to become mod. If new users see that, they won’t be afraid to break rules. Which is also why I thought after the 5th time being banned he should have been gone forever. Andrew though is very nice to users, so people like Brycey can come back and try to start fresh.

Personally I always gave brycey another chance and was prepared to treat him as if the old bans never happened. But I feel that eventually I and others started feeling like the villagers in the “Boy who Cried Wolf” story. He says one thing, but does another. And now that what he is saying is true no one believes him. Brycey though don’t feel like all of us hate you or something, I don’t and many others don’t.

 

He did some pretty stupid actions, however. Everyone can change.
I do think that all the bullying is probably WAAAY too much.
However, mostly people will get bad response if they do bad actions.
If he did great stuff people wouldn't bully him.

Simple as that.

 

I have nothing against either brycey or limsey. However when statements are made the week of mod apps and claims of "changing" come out, it is a bitter pill to those who have been wronged by that person in the past.

Also a person's history shows exactly what they are capable of, and should never be totally discounted. He made mistakes and he should own up to them and "prove" how much better he is by being in game and being helpful and considerate to others. Your actions will always speak louder than words. Fighting with people in global chat and on the forums will never help your cause either. In the end your actions in being kind and helpful can and will overcome even those who yell the loudest against you.

RagMan

 

I have had no problems with Brycey and he even told me when he was doing a job for me that he was trying to change,But you have to say the past writes out your legacy and how you are perceived in the community.The things you have done in the past will determine how people think of you in the future.Its good to change, but turning things around are always difficult.

 

Seriously...??

Although I have never been a fan of either brycey or limsey I would welcome a change in their actions. The issue is that those actions were very damaging to both many users and to the community as a whole. In the time i have been on ecc I have seen numerous occasions where brycey said that he had changed only to see anotjer ban and several complaints on his actions. I have had several users I know who have been cheated, scammed, tricked, and even worse. His actions not only harmed others but also the community as a whole. He was given a last chance a while back and was then banned again for scamming in auction with his brother and admited to it and it all happened less then a month ago.

As far as his actions are concerned...

Silliness is an understatement. I would ask that you search his name on the forums and ask yourself if silliness is the right word to use. I find setting traps in the main world and abusing donation features far from silly.

And although a lot of his actions may not have been against the rules, they can still be seen as negative in a community that prides itself as the friendliest you will ever find on minecraft. Bending rules in some cases can be just as bad as breaking them. In my opinion when you cause builders to leave because you abused their ability to know how the server works is just wrong.

To be clear.. I do not hate anyone. However I have had several friends leave due to both brycey and limsey and they held ecc responsible for not preventing or stopping a lot of what was done just a month or 2 ago. Because of this I felt obligated to say something on the behalf of them and every other user who was negatively impacted by brycey's and limsey's actions. If brycey has changed that is great, but it will take a bit longer before many people believe it.


That is all.

 

I personally agree and understand why he shouldn't get on staff. Not because he's be a bad choice, but because people hate him. Having tons of people flaming the moderators looks absolutely horrible. Having them hide it and have a huge community who hates him anyway without being able to say a word about it is almost worse.

But that has nothing to do with if he should be on the server or not now. Second chances I believe in, yes, but I don't believe in hated people with high positions when they are supposed to practically be roll models in most peoples eyes.

The problem is that while his words cannot fight, his actions cannot either. That's why this thread was made, to fight for him, because people cannot take him seriously.
For example, he could try doing a nice thing like doing an enchanted repair for someone or something like that, but he can't because people do not trust him. He could try to work for them in their town, possibly even for free, but they won't add him because they do not trust he'll do any good.
It's hard to do a good thing on the server and have it make a difference and change peoples opinions when nobody can trust him with the good deed.

The past writes your legacy, but only because people judge you by your past. Since there are only a few people on the server that get this much hate, we are trying to rewrite his legacy for him by not changing him, but changing others opinions on him. The past is the past, it's happened once, but that doesn't mean it'll happen again. It's come and gone and if you don't believe it's gone, then that's your problem. If you cannot let go of something that's happened, how will you get a grip on what is happening in the present?
In other words, what Brycey has done is something in the past now, and people cannot let go of the fact that they should hate him for it because "he'll do it again". They need to get a grip on what he is like now, not what he was like before. Sure, the past is great for knowing someone. Maybe in the past someone was really nice to me, I'll remember that he was a nice person to me at that time, but I won't trust him completely just because of it, because one action of someones past doesn't determine his future. One action can determine what the person may be like in the future, but it won't determine his entire future. If he was nice to me once, he might be nice again, but there is no telling that's always the truth.

Nobody should write their legacy so bad that it needs rewritten, but once they have written it so bad, we should support them in rewriting it. Telling them their legacy is beyond fixing only makes them keep it badly written.

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This was his last ban. Since this ban, I don't believe he has done anything wrong.
As well, for the record, when he said he changed, he didn't say he wouldn't use autoclickers or anything like that. He said he was trying to be 'a better person' or whatever, but he didn't actually scam anybody again since he started saying he'd change to my knowledge. He did what he said he'd do and stop scamming people.

He has done many things wrong on the server in the past, and even caused users you may have been friends with to leave. He has been given his punishments for it and if he gets banned again then he'll be gone.

This thread was made so maybe people will believe he's changed. Look at all these people who are saying he might have or did change.


Starting now, I want everyone to just forget all past actions of his. None of that "He did this [insert link here]" or anything. I want everyone to come to this thread a month from now and then try to argue he hasn't changed. No bias either, breaking blocks next to mining world spawn doesn't count. >.> Only if it's something that would highly upset you/others if someone other than him did it, or if it's against the rules.

 

Everyone will get mad at me, but I don't trust him. He did way too many mean things in the past and it is almost too late. As I stated in the server, the day that brycey becomes a mod, I WILL leave the server. I don't care how mean that sounds, but that means ECC hit it's ultimate low. He ripped off people, he tormented people, and he holds grudges. A mod that holds grudges cannot be a mod, for that will simply make the server system chaotic. He is mad at Ducky_momo16 and I only for posting that he would be a bad mod on his App. Yeah, he has been bullied, but he causes all this bulling, not other people.

 

You don't seem to understand at all...

We aren't trying to make Brycey mod or anything. He might not ever get mod, most people don't.
How does Brycey being on the server put ECC at it's ultimate low? It sounds more like you are trying to flame the server, not Brycey.
...You contradicted yourself there. You said that he had done certain things wrong in the past, but in the same post, you said you didn't trust him... That makes it sound like you hold a grudge, and then flamed him by saying he had a bad trait of holding grudges against other people... Are you trying to make yourself look like an idiot? Or am I just more tired than I think?
He caused the bullying, and that is his fault. That gives nobody the right to be doing it though and it's still wrong to bully him. Nothing makes treating people like that right. On top of that, he has gotten way more than his fair share of bullying already, he 'deserves' no more.

 

Reputation is very important so don't ever under estimate it and don't ever ruin it.

I have only heard stories and read some of the reports but I wouldn't trust him. Nothing personal. He may of changed but I don't know that...

 

Well i agree but, im 10 and i might apply for mod soon so yeah

 

I'm going to go ahead and be mr. Annoying facts here. None of the following are negative opinions. If you see it as a negative fact, it's getting posted anyways.

I was on the staff team during... brycey and limsy's "problem days." Everyone in this thread is stating that he has changed. You all seem to think there was a before brycey and an after brycey. But its not just black and white, there were a thousand shades of grey in between. After each scam, kill in a non pvp zone, or attempt to bend the rules as far as possible, he "changed." He was doing as a mayor things I have only seen builders doing up until him, which was auction scamming, and large amounts of money were involved. He did many other things, and after each ban he was given a new chance. If I remember correctly, he was featured in two staff-only flame wars about how many chances he had been given. Finally, after scamming another person in auction after he "changed" he was given what most of the staff thought was his final ban. Then, (im guessing) about a month later he re-appeared in the game, having "changed" for about the tenth time by this point. I am not sure if any of the rest of the staff agreed with me at the time, but I did not think he deserved to be back. We are a private server, able to (although we do not) ban anyone for any reason or no reason without repercussions (assuming "we" means andrew), and I did not understand why we would let someone back in that caused the staff such a massive headache. One staff member was demoted... essentialy due to brycey. I will not say who that member was, but they were demoted for taking a strong position against brycey and getting a little to heated in the discussion about brycey. Yes, he should have kept his cool, but if not for brycey breaking so many rules and getting unbanned anyways he would never have lost it.

TL;DR: brycey managed to scam many, kill in non pvp zones (myself included), and bend rules, each time having "changed" and then repeating in some cases the exact same offence. He made several people leave the server and managed to get a staff member demoted.

So, not an opinion but rather a question: does he deserve to be trusted to having changed now? He has given much evidence that when he "changes" it just means he wants to be unbanned to cause progressively worse problems. He may have actually changed, but then again, he also applied for staff each and every available time before as well.

 

he`s 12?