Please read the whole suggestion before leaving your opinion, ty Minecraft Name: minecraftninja05 Suggestion: As many, if not all of you know, you must be the original owner of a town to app for things such as a portal, town warp, town move, etc. This has affected my town in many ways. 1. Most of the "original owners", who have not even stepped foot in their "original owner town" are not active, so I can not have them app, I see no reason why I can't app, there has to be an exception, circumstances whine. It's unfair to users who have active and growing towns and telling them "You can not app for a town portal that will benefit your town members and take $ out of the server", you need the original owner, who even if offline 4 months for example with no signs of having an interest in the town, you need them to some how come back. Regarding a situation I have, and I've seen others have it, the original owner of a town in my nation(6 towns) is inactive for roughly 2 months, they log on every 2-4 months just to see if the server is fixed(kits, etc), we payed the user 85k for the town, they did it for the sole purpose to get mayor. I am now not able to app for something that would benefit my town members and take $ out of the economy as I said above. Any excuse to take $ out of the server is good. If the user gets payed to give up their town in exchange for the town, why not let the current owner app for a portal? reason: ^^^^^ Any Other Information: I realize I did a awful job splitting everything up, and its kinda jumbled/a bit confusing, so please post any questions in the comments below. Please post your opinion below, positive or negative, just keep it civil and related to the thread. Link To This Plugin:
We do have the town transfer applications, which are $250k. They're really expensive, and I don't think you can hurt a town by adding a portal or a warp. +1
Well, there are several ways around this issue. None of them are cheap You can enter a contract with the original owner to transfer ownership to you with: There are different terms of ownership, with different legal rights. Official Owner: The player who currently owns the town as stated in the town application. This is either the original applicant or the player listed as "New Owner" in the town application. Only the official owner is able to file town feature applications. Legal Owner: The owner of the town as defined by agreement (contract, in game agreement, etc.) with the Official Owner of the town. There can be more than one Legal Owner per town (2 equal owners for example). This must be clearly expressed in the agreement. A contract is by far the most reliable method of transferring legal ownership of a town and is the best way to prove that you are the Legal Owner. Co-Owner/Co-Mayor: Added to the town but not legal owner. Powers are defined by the legal owner of a town. and Clause 6 - Town Transfers Town Transfer applications allow you to transfer a town via contract for $250,000. The contract must specifically state that you are permitted to apply for a Town Transfer to gain Official Ownership of the town. Please note that until a Town Transfer or Town Claim application has been filed the town may be reclaimed at any point by the Official Owner at the discretion of the administration. When a user transfers a town, the former Official Owner loses all rights to the town and ownership. The user who has claimed the town becomes the Official Owner, and may apply for town features and have all the other benefits of having a town in which they are the Official Owner. Of course, it cost 250k MORE than you've already paid for the town. This is actually cheaper than building a 6th town at 400k compared to buying (85k-ish) and transferring (250k) which comes to 335k. A second option is to claim the town, if the original owner is offline for 6+ months Clause 5 - Town Claims With the addition of the Town Claiming feature for Tycoons+, town transfers are possible by means of attaining a rank and claiming it under any of the following criteria: The owners of the town are offline for a minimum of 6 months. The owners of the town are permanently banned from the server, and a period of 7 days has passed since the ban was issued. The owners of the town have signed and consented to the sale/transfer of a town officially, to be completed in full via the Town Claim application. When a user claims a town, the former Official Owner loses all rights to the town and its ownership. The user who has claimed the town becomes the Official Owner, and may apply for town features and have all the other benefits associated with being the Official Owner. This will not be reversed under any circumstances. If you purchase another user’s town not via a Town Claim or Town Transfer, be wary that the Original Owner may contact a GameAdmin+ at any time to request the town be returned to them, the request of which will be filled at the administration’s discretion. This option costs the price of Tycoon (500k). It seems the "build it yourself" option still ends up being the cheapest (85k and up), no matter how cheaply you may have bought someone else's town ************************* Now, for your suggestion, I agree that the "Legal Owner" should also have the same rights for applications as the "Official Owner". Staff has created the distinction between the ownership labels, but I can't see a reason for "Legal Ownership" if none of the town improvement applications can be used by this type of Owner.
Ty for your response, Andrew hated the idea of users buying someone's town and applying for stuff, idk why. Hopefully phys feels differently
Yea reason I suggested is I shouldn't have to spend 250k just to have the option to apply for a portal, this rule has greatly hurt some of the big towns, hoping phys considers this at least
Town transfers are for this exact reason. Yes, they're not free. But they are cheaper than buying a new town from the server. It's a bit illogical that we'd issue official ownership for free. I assume you want this so you can add portals/warps/etc to a town you already own. There's a trade off: You can buy towns from the server. They're more expensive, but you can apply for town features. You can buy towns from players. They're cheaper, but you can't apply for town features. You can apply for a town transfer - it's cheaper than all but the first three towns you can apply for.
I shouldn't have to pay 250k just to have the option to app... If I payed the user 85k for the town, I should be able to add a portal. They did it for the sole reason to rank up.
Why should we issue the same legal protections for essentially free, that we have players pay quite a lot of money for?
If I own a town, I should be able to app for a town portal period, no strings attached. It benefits the town itself by having an alternative for town members to get there, and it takes $ out of the economy. Not being the original town, this has caused many towns to well just die out, very few people are willing to spend 250k just to have the option. If they do, then great for that .001% of the server, but nice towns are becoming less and less likely, people give up after they find out they can't add a portal, unless they spend hours upon hours saving 250k just so they have an option, not have the portal, no, the option to.
But you don't own it - you aren't the official owner unless you transfer it officially. Anything other is essentially a long term lease: The official owner still retains rights to reclaim the town under certain conditions.
um I do own it, type /rg i foixsouth, I am the "owner", aka, I own it. We payed the user 85k for the town, so they could become a mayor, they gave us the town, they are inactive and have no intention of retaining it. Many big towns have this issue, and it is unfair to them. Whats wrong with me apping for a portal, I've stated roughly 4 times now it takes $out of the server, and benefits town members, as it gives them an alternative way other than /sethome to get there, as many of my town members do not own multihome.
I don't agree with andrew all the time on things, but honestly, this one I really agree with. There's literally no need to get a town after mayor if I can just buy one for $30,000. Unless you want the town market to be worthless again, then by all means implement this.
I understand your point completly Nicit, but this rule is greatly outdated, why Andrew wanted it I will never understand, he wanted it to be realistic, well I'll agree with him once I see a new mayor be reflected and not be able to make changes, exactly like my situation, like me becoming mayor irl after I beat out the previous mayor, oh but even though he's uninvolved in the town, he has to confirm my changes
They already have dropped a lot. The point of a town is not to make it worth a lot, it's to build a active friendly community where new members can coiinverse and chat, or maybe add a nice farm where users can earn $ and enjoy the server at the same time. If you think the point of s town is for it to be worth a lot, you my friend are greatly mistaken, me and Apple have put millions in our town and I don't regret it 1 bit, idc if the town woukd be worthless, it would benefit my town members, and that's more important than value if the town to me, and many others.
That's great and all, but you haven't acknowledged my point. If I can pay $30,000 for a town, then what's the point of getting Mayor, President, and so on? There's no reason to. That's less money out of the economy, and the town market would crash. It's not beneficial to the economy in any aspects, at all.
Maybe make it you must be a certain rank to do it?.. Mayor or pres+? So users can work to rank up for the purpose of adding a portal. Would be s great way to get mayors to rank up imo, I'm sure many works agree
Ok, then go get a town transfer. The point of a town is not so that I can pay $30,000 and get it, it's so that money can be taken out of the economy. It's pointless to have a way of "getting around the system". Would you rather pay $210,000 for an additional town that you can do whatever you want with, and have that money taken out of the economy. Or pay $30,000 and no money taken out? The fact of the matter is is that in order to prevent inflation, a user to user market is great, but getting $210,000 out of the economy takes a bigger priority.
