Noob questions about the market and other things...

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  1. Jorgy411

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    Sorry if this annoys anyone or if the answers are right in front of me...but im still fairly new to the server and this website. I could find a questions forums to where I could post this, so i figured since most of my questions are market replated, I'd post it here.

    A little background about me first:

    Anyway, enough about me, Here is the list of Noobish questions I have that I cant seem to find a good answer too:

    1. How do I obtain an Eff 7 Picaxe (Eff VII is possible?!?)? And how much does it cost if I were to buy it? (from server? or player?)
    2. Whats the going rate for real $Money to Eco-Dollars? ($1 = $1000 Eco-Dollars?)
    3. I've been mining out a 200x200x3 farm area in my town, whats the best crop to plant for someone like me to start out with? (I've probably only made 30k in the 3 weeks ive been playing so far...looking to try and improve my money intake from 1.4k a day...)
    4. I have the water+ perk and the /back donation perk. With this in mind, whats my best option to earn money? So I can't afford to invest in anything big at the moment, but I can make myself a goal to work towards as long as its reasonable... -__-
    5. Where can I find a list of people that try to scam others? I heard there was a list of these people but I have no idea where to find them in the forums. (A link would be perfect) I dont want to get scammed again. Lost about $4k Eco-Dollars due to some connectivity issues on the other guys side.
    6. I was looking to start up an enchanted book side-business to try and make some extra $$ from mining. Whats the optimum level I should use on a book to get the most out of enchanting? Should I just keep enchanting at level 30 every time? Or since I only get one enchant per book, would it be best to enchant at a lower level, if so whats the best level? It seems wasteful to enchant at level because the enchants I'm getting are pretty sucky..
    7. Whats macro-mining? I've read a few times that people "use macros while mining" which improves there efficiency when it comes to selling things on hand or repairing items...I guess I dont understand what all that means..
    8. Is purchasing the "Survivor" rank to enter the nether worth it for someone like me at this time? Or should I wait and focus on saving so something else such as better tools or something else?
    9. Being new to multiplayer minecraft....Whats the Aether world all about? Is it just floating islands? Whats the point of buying the pilot rank if all I get is a portal to floating islands? Seems dangerous and pointless if thats all it is... O__o
    10. I've read that the Aether is greif-free. All griefed blocks are rolled back and the responcible party is banned from the aether. I guess, my question is does the Aether reset like the mining and nether worlds do? Or can you build in the Aether without fear of losing all your progress?
    11. What blocks are NOT usable in ECC? Is there a page where it explains which blocks are off-limits? I know the cactus block cant be placed. I've tried. Figured I could create a cactus farm off that, but cant. Also, pistons cant be placed? :/ Im a huge redstone junkie...
    12. (Personal Question) When you first started this server, What did you do to make all your money? How long did it take you to get to Resident? Mayor? President?

    If you've made it this far, thanks for reading. There is so much to do and learn about this server, my OCD and ADD kicks in quite a bit and I easily get overwhelmed on how to proceed...So much so, I sometimes just sit there, doing nothing but reasearching on ECC website and wiki...UGH, I need some help, so any information on the above questions would seriously help me out. If you can answer any of these questions, I'd be seriously grateful!

    Thanks in advance,
    ~Jorgy
     
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    1. Eff7 Tools are 1500 netherstars from the netherstar shop at spawn (Stonebrick and spruce log building) and can be bought from players for around $600,000.

    2. I'm not perfectly confident in this answer, I believe 5k = 1 U.S. Dollar.

    3. I would honestly say all of them except sugarcane. It all just depends, considering you're just starting I would recommend, pumpkins, cocoa beans, and netherwart. You could also buy perms to farms.

    4. With the current donation features I wouldn't say you have to much to offer. In my expereience and knowledge of water+ and /back you have personal features or stuff that just benefits you. You could always offer to do water placements but a lot of the time people cannot add you to the place they want water placed and it doesn't make great money.

    5.http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/feedback-loans-and-lending.55969/ Along with this always be cautious and aware of the rules of the server, if you don't feel comfortable in a trade simply stop it. Along with this take advantage of the search feature on the forums. I like to search for a user's Ban Appeals. This is done by entering "Ban Appeal" in the search bar at the top right and then adding the person's name into the "Posted my member" option.

    6. I do level 30 but for starting out you may want to start out at low levels (15-20) and then sell to people with lower standards (Builders/Residents). Once you get mayor and/or you get a lot more resources (Ways to earn xp/buy xp) start spending it on the luxury levels (30).

    7. This is referring to a popular mod that plenty of users here use called the MacroMod. It gives people the ability to bind commands to keys on your keyboard and such. Some people have it set up so that every 1 minute they /sell stone automatically or every 5 minutes they do /repair all (A command that repairs tools using the ExtCommands+ feature). I don't use it because I prefer to just type stuff out and feel it doesn't really save that much time but to each their own and it's a goo mod regardless. You can do many cool things with it.
    (Link to MacroMod: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/467504-164-macro-keybind-mod-0911/)

    8. You have the right idea, focus on more important stuff like Mayor or upgraded tools, it will allow you to then get the $$$ needed for survivor quicker. Also along with this vote each day, it can get you a free 2k a day.
    http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/t...t-in-game-prizes-major-monthly-raffles.27824/ and do the 6 main votes

    9. The aether we have is actually not affiliated with the Aether mod, we have skylands. It's supposed to be a place to freely build without worrying about common town issues like grief. Very dangerous though without fly.

    10. There has only been 1 aether reset "to my knowledge" and that was just this week. The Aether getting reset is a very rare occurance and you should not be worried about your progress being lost. If the Aether DOES reset, there will be plenty of warning and good reasoning behind it.

    11. Hoppers, Cactus, Piston, Bedrock?, tripwires, beacons, alot of the redstone-y stuff and rare blocks. Sorry I cannot go more indepth.

    12. When I first started I lived in the wild with two other IRL friends and our house was an underground complex between intersecting ravines, we mined there and then when I got about 10k I went to the town of Flintwood with my friends. From there we used each other's and the public pumpkin farm and farmed to resident. (No enchanted tools, and pumpkins were $2). It took me about a month to get Resident but was in no hurry. I was rich in resources, not in cash. Kind of like I am now. Mayor took 7 months and then I stalled, became inactive a couple times and then two months ago I pushed myself and got pres. So in short, It took a month for Res, 7 for Mayor, and then technically 1 year and 7 months, but I made 180k for pres in about 1 month.

    Hope this helped, if you need a free plot, a teleport somewhere, Lift/Color signs placed let me know as well as feel free to question me more :D I like ranting/typing/storytelling
     
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    Very interesting post SnDxCH4RG3R. That was well thought out and very helpful!

    I will look into the MacroMod. That seems like it could help me out with mining. I just watched that youtube video, would be beneficial to see when friends are online instead of trying to remember their names all the time. It looks pretty simple to use too. Now i'll just have to figure out how to install it xD

    I was upset to see that cactus couldnt be farmed. I mean, it makes sense because I could see huge cactus farms being built and lagging up the server constantly. I found some cactus in the desert in the mining world after the reset too. haha

    I might take you up on that offer for the lift/color signs one of these days. I have a huge farm with multiple layers in it that I will need lift signs placed. Im a co-mayor of a town too, so I will be able to add perms for your to place stuff.


    I'd love to hear more of other peoples opinions if anyone has anything to add! :D
     
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    SND covered the majority
    I think the best thing to do is to do what you are doing and ask questions.
    Eff7 is probably going to be out of your reach for quite some time but your eff5 will do the trick just fine.
    When I was a builder/resident I had a better time selling my XP to user shops than to making my own books. The XP market is deflated right now but it's a good stead source of income from those mining trips.
    I think I would only use silk touch if you have a specific purpose in mind, otherwise the fort3 should your mainstay. hit level 11 and just keep going.
    Since you have /back I would recommend setting your /home next to a source of water. I had a small swimming pool at my house and that was my /home. That way if I ever got into trouble with lava i could /home, dunk in the water and then /back and get back to work.
    I assume you have a plot? If not contact me in game and I will get you one free of charge. We have a portal and a cookpot and I'm working on a pumpkin farm.

    Its good to be aware of scams. I think that until you have a history with some trusted individuals, than it is wise to treat everyone with a healthy amount of skepticism. Use trusted individuals for your ereps and compensate them well. at least 200.
    If an offer is too good to be true it probably is.

    oh and one more thing


    STAY
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    LOL

    I wouldnt even think of paying $1k ECO-Dollars to have a small chance at winning a big pot. Im a numbers man, and the odds are seriously too small for me to even try.

    I have the Water+ feature, so the bit about going home to put myself out if I ever get on fire is irrelevant because I carry around with me a bucket of water at all times (just in case haha) :D

    I never thought about selling my XP for $$...I can see how that might make more money in the long run because the enchants I get from books are looking to be pointless 90% of the time...Bane of Arthropods IV?? Who needs/wants that if you can have Sharpness IV...

    Good suggestions and information. I appreciate the time and effort you took to write me some advice! It is very much appreciated!
     
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    I'm glad you are smart enough to not lotto. And having water helps i just like a cool refreshing bath on occasion.
    You totally get what I am saying with the xp books vs. selling.
    Selling is a much more steady source of income which is what you are looking for when you are working your way up the ranks. Look around at the various shops and see which are buying for the most. It used to be $1 an orb but its below that now. When I would go out mining the XP I would sell at the end would be a huge portion of the overall income gained. If I had a particular shop to recommend it would be #70. Run by my right honorable friend _TANSTAAFL
    He is very fair and a smart/trustoworthy business person. Blue side on the left.

    Good luck and if you see me making an ass out of my self in global send me a PM with any questions!
     
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    Dork and SnD basically covered anything. Going off topic, I must say you are a very unique individual. You are one of the first users I've seen make this type of thread as a newcomer to EcoCityCraft, and I've been actively playing for almost a year now. If you have ANY other questions pertaining to anything EcoCityCraft or MacroMod related, feel free to message me on the forums or in-game. I expect big things from smart newbies like you ;).

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    Stone is right, not a lot of people take the time to really go into the forums and learn the server, and learn how to play. You asking these questions will for sure benefit you in the long run. Make sure you NEVER hesitate to ask in chat or on the forums if you're confused. And don't do lotto.
     
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    Agreeing with stone and SnD
    the mere fact that you made this post sets you above and beyond your "Resident" status.
    Kudos.
    Keep up the communication. Watch out for the bad people and treat everyone with respect.
     
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    Your guys help seriously improved my gameplay. I really appreciate the words of advice you guys gave me. :)

    I just purchased the survivor perk and made an efficient blaze spawner. Been farming xp ever since. Once I get the best armor and weapons I can get, I will be selling this double chest full of raw quarts to highest bidder. haha

    Im half way done with obtaining the mayor rank too! my eff V pick is helping out the most, so I think the first server tool Im gonna buy is the eff VII tool. There is no way Im buying the tool legit with nstars, so i'll be paying with eco dollars to a seller. Should I save up for a server tool first or buy the president perk first?
     
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    Lol nice to hear your progress! I just bought my eff7...

    With stars...
     
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    Be sure you are condensing your quartz into blocks to save space. Since it doesn't require a workbench you can do it while you mine.
    I too am glad that you checked in with us and I am stoaked you are being successful!
    Be sure to reexamine all strategies now that mining doesn't give XP anymore, but it sounds like with a spawner you wont have that trouble.

    :D
     
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    Very helpful thread. I just started and got on the forums to look for something like this!!!
     
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    I was looking for a thread like this. I am also new to the server/multiplayer and had several of the questions you had. This thread has been very helpful!

    Jorgy411, if you are ever looking for a fellow new player to roam around with, let me know :)
     
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    This thread has been extremely helpful I almost bought Aether! Now I 'nether' will. XD
     
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    Play lotto, seriously, somebody 1 ticketed 800k! I've won over 400k in lotto. Dont always put your money in when the pot is big (ironic). Try to win like 10k, then go higher. Or win 200k in 1 hour, like i did. I love to lose, it makes me like "I lost! Time for revenge!" Then im trying again XD 1k is only good for small pots or if you are lucky, you can win 200k-1mill! Lotto FTW.

    The first thing i did when i got unbanned on saturday was to try lotto again ;D i was permabanned.


    But be careful. Many of the big winners gets banned after a while. They are ending up with problems like my famous friend fotballpay1 . He were a millionaire and won almost 300 lotteries. He put 50-100k every big lottery.

    But he ended up with loans and now he is banned. I know more ppl that got problems.
     
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    Although people say lotto ruins you, I have tripled my earnings.
    [​IMG]

    http://lottery.radthorne.com/?mosttotalwins

    You CAN easily profit off of lotto, just play it smart. Don't drop all you've got and leave nothing for yourself (I've done many times and have learned my lesson) but say if there is 20k and you have 100k then feel free to drop 10, 15, or even 20. Sometimes buying out the lotto IS very effective and sometimes it ruins you. It's all just a luck game.
     
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    That site doesn't track losses and lost money.
     
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    This is wrong... I've only won lotto twice, both under 20k.

    Sent from my NX008HD8G using Tapatalk
     
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    Wow, i'm surprised this thread has actually stayed alive as well as helped out a few people on the way! That's amazing! :)

    Anyway! I wanted to make an update on how i'm doing in game. I am pleased to say I have achieved the rank of mayor about a month or two back, as well as create a town my own as well as bought another town of a friend for 85k! I am hiring people out to help me mine out my underground farm for my town for 15k a floor. 15k for someone that just started the game is nothing to sneeze at, which is one of the reasons why I'm offering it to newly established players. lol

    I also would like to point out that I bought an Eff 7 Pickaxe about a month ago! Its been my best friend ever since!

    I am sitting on about 420k in money after buying a LOAD of donation features. Those features include: Multihome+++, Fly+, Water, /back, ExtCommands+, ExtCreations+, Teleport, and UnlimitedLWC!

    I placed 6th place on the ECC's Spawn Build Competition and earned myself Event Medal as well as 600k as prize money.

    I am also currently working on my 3rd PvP Arena for the ECC's PvP Arena Build Competition, so hopefully one of my arenas (or maybe all of them?!) get picked! I plan on making 4 total to enter in the competition. Deadline Sunday!! AHH! hehe

    Its been a long and tiresome road since I made this thread four and half months ago, but its been one hell of ride! I've been enjoying myself playing this server, and I do not see an end anytime soon! :)

    Oh, and one last thing before I end this post....I'd also like to point out that I have NEVER played the lotto, and do not plan too until I have bought every obtainable donation feature as well as I have 1mil+ in spare change to play with. Which....I have no doubt that I will get there one of these days. lol Maybe sooner rather then later. ;)

    Tagged people that I think might be interested in this post: SnDxCH4RG3R , @dork1887, StoneIronZ , UnicornBanana49

    EDIT: OH! I almost forgot! Ironically, I bought my eff 7 pick with 1500 nstars instead of ECD's. haha, turns out no one that has an eff 7 pick wants to sell there's! xD Or if they did, it was impossible for me to get in touch with them before they sold it. lol

    PS: MIR121 , I play around in the mining world a ton. message me in game and we can mine together if ya want! lol
     
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