So we have had a slight re-shuffle of the SG medal applications in order for us to add new medals for those near the top of the leaderboards to strive for. The points needed are now as follows: Wood - 75,000 Stone - 150,000 Iron - 300,000 Gold - 600,000 Diamond - 1,200,000 You can now apply for the Gold medal should you have over 600,000 points! And let the race be on for the 'new' diamond medal!
Although the numbers are being doubled for the Gold & Diamond medal those numbers seem a lot more odd, if anything they should have been 500k - 1,000,000. Overall I think new medals mean new goals to strive therefore I am behind the new medals I just feel like the numbers need tweaking.
I agree, I believe the numbers should be tweaked a little. Maybe something like this: Wood- 50k Stone 100k Iron- 250k Gold- 500k Diamond: 1m Since the first two swords are kind of ugly for a "medal", I think it's fair to lower the amount needed for them. I have mixed feelings about the diamond medal considering it now takes 4x as many points to get. I think its cool that whenever the first few get it it will be really rare, but I feel a little bit bad for the players that have been working for diamond for a while and were really close. Also, of the players that have over 500k sg points, there are really only 3 active players that I can see getting this medal. I know that there are some players that will be striving for these "new" medals but I feel that there are more players that play sg purely for the medals that will no longer be fighting for the old diamond medal as it is now only an old iron sword they already had before. I'm still not exactly sure what to say to this.
In the next year, they'll probably only be two users that have the diamond SG medal.(Back and 3point obviously) Seems pretty pointless because only a select few will have that many points. How about we lower it to 750,000 points?
That is often the case though with new ranks etc. When EcoLegend was added for example, I bet the vast majority of people looked at that and saw that it was stupid, $5mil for a rank when you've already had to spend around $4mil just to get to EcoMaster? The whole point of the top goals is that they are difficult. Naturally, there will always be some people who are closer to them than others when they were first introduced. I remember when Georgie was the first to get to Diamond. 300,000 is, I admit, A LOT of sg points. Back then though that was seen as crazy. Now over 20 players have 300,000+. Times change, the picture changes, people get higher etc. If someone had have said a year ago that people would have over 1 mil SG points I would have called you crazy lol. This change is for people to strive for in the future. The top goals aren't supposed to be easy This is my only regret with this addition. I think most people would agree that what it is now makes the most sense, especially if you were implementing this from scratch (Arguably the gold sword could be moved around a bit). The 5 medals match the 5 types of swords possible. I do feel bad for those who had the diamond sword etc, but what I would say is that people will adjust to the change. The meanings attached to medals will adjust to the new medals. Hopefully this helps in explaining the thought process behind the change.
Completely agree with these numbers. I've been working for months, and have just been slightly close to the iron, and now its been pushed further away from me, I think that we should be given a warning, say, 30 days, to get as many sg points as we can, then put these new changes into place. TL;DR: Let us have 30 days to gain as many points as we can, and apply for medals, then implement these new medals with their points.
Personally, the current numbers seem rather odd. I really like the numbers that @dumdum71 proposed. It makes it seem more clean and professional.
I personally don't think the numbers are unusual. They follow in line with the previous 75/150/300, and I have never heard people complain about those 3 not making sense in the past? Are people suggesting the lower numbers because it would make the medals more obtainable? Is that the motivation behind the suggestion?
I think it looks tidier. The last number being more "whole" (1 million) than the rest. Either that, or make them harder to obtain: Wood- 100k Stone 250k Iron- 500k Gold- 1m Diamond: 1.5m
I think people did not care about the previous numbers due to there only being 3 medals. Now that there are 5, it seems rather odd ending at 1.2m, it's more of the "whole" numbers scenario.
No, that was not the motivation. The idea was that the later medals would be more "whole" like stated above. Also, I don't think that a wood sword should be equal to the old iron sword. Earlier you asked how it was different than adding ranks. Well, the difference is that tycoon wasn't taken away from players and adding two ranks between president and tycoon and giving the earlier tycoons a lesser rank. Instead, players got to keep their current rank and two ranks were added after ecoleader. In the medal case, there aren't any new goals that people are working for. They are simply working for the same goal they had already achieved 6 months ago and replacing their current medals that they had worked for for uglier medals. I'd like to make a whole new suggestion that doesn't change the motive that you said you had behind the medals, which was to give players a new goal to reach. 75000 points- Iron Sword 150000 points- Gold Sword 300000 points- Diamond Sword 500000 points- Lapis or redstone sword (not sure which looks better) 1000000 points- Emerald sword The thing is, I don't think anyone wants a wood sword medal. I feel like changing the nice looking iron sword to an ugly wood sword would push people away from working towards the 75000 points more than it would push the few amount of players that have a chance of getting to 1m+ points towards the diamond sword. My suggestion keeps people from losing any of their current nice looking medals as well as adding something unique to aim for. Oh, for those of you wondering what I mean by the lapis/redstone/emerald sword, no they do not exist, but people have made pictures of them that look nice and would be easy change into the medal image. Here is an example of an emerald sword: https://www.google.com/search?q=eme...kaXRvcnIRCxIEU2tpbhiAgICA8N64CgyIAgEU;718;718
I have to say so far I agree entirely with @dumdum71's assessment of the situation. Though perhaps instead of more swords, add 3 more 'merit' medals. Make it look like a ribbon with a little sword hanging off of it. Add 3 (as we really do seem to like sets of three, a white ribbon, a red ribbon, and a blue ribbon all with diamond swords hanging from them), at 600k, 1.2m, and 2.4m points. Yes, 2.4 million points seems like a goal terribly far away, however, so did 300k when we added that.
I like this as well except, the numbers are still a bit odd. Maybe go 500k, 1m, and 2m. Actually, anything that won't take away something several people have worked for and replace it with something ugly is more than fine with me.
