Nether Spawn ( suggestions )

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  1. Turtwiginator95

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    Hello Turtwiginator95 again

    Ive been wandering the nether and was wondering "why is it so desolate?" So here is my proposition. The nether is really fun to explore and mine through, however it seems under developed for a world only accessible though a tag. So here are some ideas to improve the nether experience.

    - ender-chests safe zones throughout the nether distributed evenly so players have easy access to weapons or supplies for mining or pvp.

    - a nether store at the spawn portal (players have paid for this perk so they should have special access to cheaper nether items) nothing extreme maybe a 5% or 10% discount in select items

    - a starting point suspended above the ground where players can have safe haven and not worry about spawn stalkers (players who wait at spawn to kill u)

    - a heal sign at nether spawn for players who survive an attack from other players

    - and lastly (I know ill get knocked for this) but a fly disable

    Thank you for your time.
     
    #1 Turtwiginator95, Dec 1, 2013
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    NO FLY DISABLE!!! ...i dont have fly tho
     
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    insteed of fly disabled how about mobs disabled or pvp make it safe because andrewkm removed mining XP
     
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    What do u mean removed mining? Do u mean experience from mining?
     
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    That is what he means... sadly
     
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    I like the this but how about like a /wild? That would be nice
     
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    Ya or what if when u /home away and u can /nether to spawn in the same place u left? It gets rather annoying walking back everytime u run out of supplies
     
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    If there were mobs disabled, no one could get blaze rods, ghast tears, or magma cream. This would also greatly affect the xp market. Whether for good or bad I do not know.
     
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    You would /wild land right in to lava XD
     
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    Unless if lava should be removed then you would not burn
     
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    /wild land

    No lava.
     
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    That is true /wild land doesn't tp u into water that might be a good thing to add? Walking from spawn over and over can be very annoying, however that might create more work and make nether restarts more frequent due to the palyers ability to explore deeper into the nether. So its a win lose situation :(
     
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    /sethome nether
    /home nether

    ;)
     
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    Is that what u think is should be? Or is that an actual command!? Because that would be awesome
     
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    [jokingly]
    You know.... there should be a donation feature that allows you to set a home and then when you want to go back, you can just use it. ... pause for dramatic effect... We should call it..... multiple home setter.... nah too big. Multihome.... yeah that works.
    [/jokingly]

    If you have Multihome, you can set a home anywhere in the nether and go back to it instantly without having to walk the whole way again. (Works for the mining world too) ;)
     
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    jokingly- or maybe a /see donation? To see if people have that donation we can call it *pause for effect* looking under there name in forums O.O that would be awesome!

    But I jest lol, the truth is Emau some people feel the need to donate which is awesome im happy people support the server. But others dont for personal or financial reasons. They pay Eco dollars for nether access not real money I feel personally they shouldn't be roped into donations if they cant obtain them for their own reasons. However your /nether home idea is very promising I hope a mod reads this and thinks about bringing it up that was a good call :)
     
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    I did see that you weren't a donator.... well, I did after you asked if it was a real command. :oops:

    In response to the snippet I quoted above regarding donations: I haven't spent a penny of IRL cash. It is one of the reasons I play Minecraft and not something like WOW. Many years ago I overindulged in a hobby (MTG) and I promised my wife I would never do that again. It is one of my "rationalizations" for spending so much time here (At least I'm not spending any money playing it).

    I will never spend a dollar more than purchasing the game. All ECD here.

    Just showing that there is a command out there that does part of what you are asking (Even if it is a donation).

    Take it easy. :)
     
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    $400 in ECD ... no lie that really awesome ._. , but I digress thank you for your imput but others dont have a set up like u (I wouldn't mind some pointers ig) but I do like that /nether home like I said I hope they take that into consideration ^~^ but what about the other suggestions? Like echests and a market?
     
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    This is my personal opinion. I know that there are many who disagree. I have a feeling you will disagree with me on a few of these points. But since you asked:

    The reason the nether is so desolate, isn't the lack of a "market" or other things. It is the fact that it costs to have access and it is PVP. I am sure the aether is just as desolate because it costs to have access.

    I very rarely encounter anyone in the mining world, and that is free to enter.

    The lack of people is not a bad thing in the nether. In fact, because I am not a PVP'er, I try to go into it when there is no one else there. I can say that finding those times are hard for me and usually I have to suck it up and go in when I see less than 5 people in it.



    Ender chests safe zones: Not really sure how this would help anything. Why wouldn't you carry the stuff on you? Are you saying that this would help for a situation where you are mining and someone attacks you, so you run to the enderchest safe area and grab your PVP gear? There are so many issues here, I wouldn't know where to begin (or how to find these enderchest safe zones).



    A Netherstore/Market at the spawn portal: Are you saying there would be a Nether theme market, or just any items? Are you also going to have one on the Aether side of things? I mean they build a lot there, so would there be like building supplies there to buy cheaply?

    It seems this would be a place players would hover around hoping to pick off people with PVP. I know it would be a safe area, but if people just use the market and leave, how does that help anywhere else? I don't see this as helping anything. In fact, I think it would hurt because people would just buy their items here instead of mining for it.



    We have one, it is called nether spawn. What you are asking for is a second nether spawn, right? a "starting point" that is a "safe have". Sounds like a spawn to me.



    A free heal sign in a place you can't die? Where, if you made it here, you are safe anyway to leave and heal. This, to me, sounds redundant and unnecessary. Just my opinion. Is there even a free heal sign in the main world spawn?



    This would not increase people's desire to come into the nether. Fly+ is a donation that people buy so they CAN fly in the nether (as well as other worlds). Taking this away would anger many players and keep people from wanting to come into the nether. Without fly, some of those people would not come in. And it doesn't help anyone. This would have the opposite affect than the one you are trying to create.

    If you want to make the nether more populated. Remove the PVP aspect and remove the cost. I, personally, do not think that is a good idea... but those are really the options you have as far as I can see.
     
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    They are reasonable arguments and yes some of the reasons people are not in the nether is do too the pay rank. But that doesn't just mean thats all u can do for the nether. Its an enormous place and just having a single spawn with no further add-ons seems like a missed opportunity to me. When you see pictures of the nether on our servers website you imagen arenas and rings to fight it not somee wasteland where players scavenge and fend for themselves. It would be nice to have a centralized area for players to group at. As you said players pay money to have this specialized access. So maybe we can have a centralized area with for specialized warps? This will help the even distribution of players though the nether? (For example) the builders warps 1-20ish warps which leads to ample resources for players. Dosent it annoy u when you spawn and the second you step out of spawns safe zone your looking at a drop into lava due to close spawn mining? The nether is a huge place filled with rare and useful items but its potential is not being used to its fullest. I propose a centralized warp spawn to different parts of the nether with or without the add-ons I listed above.
    Thank you all for your input. Lets work together to see if we can better the nether not just disprove ideas (no offense to anyones comments they are all well thought out and make sense)
     
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