I am getting a sinking feeling that it will not be returning. The reasons for it not being on the server seem to be shifting and the consensus I get is its not coming back. I hope we get an official forum post from the man himself on this before his vacation. If its not working and breaks servers, I understand it not being used. If it is working but generates to much money, and that why its not coming back, that sucks. Can't we just adjust the price of things so its not generating to much money? Keeping inflation down in any economy requires adjustments, never a set it and forget it scenario. Honestly if its working but not being brought back, thats a deal breaker for me, and I doubt I would be alone in that sentiment. I have invested time and money in the server and its hard to walk away from that lightly. I am hoping to hear something because it would be foolish to invest alot more time and possibly more money into something that won't work out. Right now I just get the vibe that if its not mentioned maybe people will forget about it and the theory is that will lesson the blow to people and current players when its officially announced to be never coming back. The argument can be made, well you played all this time without it, whats the big deal? I will give a small example of why its a big deal to me personally. I like playing legit as I can but some standard game features like creepers, tnt, pistons, etc do not translate well to multi-player servers, I understand. However in my own town where I am simply trying to make a level surface at y coordinate 50, I have only two options for clearing that land. World editing, or pick/shovel/lots of time. I like to stay legit so world editing gets ruled out. If the server allowed tnt I could use alot of that to speed up the process, would probably cost as many eco dollars as world editing and still take alot of time, but you feel like you did something, making all the holes for tnt and trying not to accidentally blow yourself up. Unless something has changed tnt is only decorative on the regular map last I read the ecc wiki. So I have been doing it with a pick and a shovel. When mcmmo was around you at least could occasionally use the digging and mining secondary abilities to burn thru stone and dirt more quickly. You also scored useful items like glowstone dust to use once the land was ready for building. Also I took consolation in the slow grind knowing it would buff my power level and at some point get me into the top 10 of mining and excavating which is not an easy matter on this server. The rank structure, allowing you to buy a piece of land and earn your way up was a big selling point to me as a new player to the server, and I appreciated it more the better I came to understand it. However mcmmo was the biggest selling point to me on the server, by far. The challenging leveling grind and tempered rewards seemed to improve on a really great plugin. Got me hooked on multi-player and the game overall again. What do we have as a selling point to replace it? Adding mobs disguises to stealth doesn't seem to fill that void.
I miss Mcmmo as well, every time the server updates I /mcstats to see if it was added back in. It adds a dynamic to the game that is missing and makes manual clearing of towns (I just finished one and have another to do) a little bit more enjoyable. My understanding is that it is really buggy thus it was removed from the server until the mcmmo devs get it stable. I dont know this type of coding and I understand that it takes a while for these things. So I will wait patiently for the chance that it may come back.
Mcmmo being gone is a tragedy for me. As you all know I run a foundation that trades charcoal for coal, up until Mcmmo was disabled I've been very successful. Mcmmo gives me the ability to cut down trees much faster and for a greater amount of logs. In no way was this making me tons of money, it was only making it much easier to keep up with my client's charcoal needs. With mcmmo gone, it takes twice the amount of time to harvest my trees for significantly less to show for it.
Well Mardigan hopefully we here something solid sometime so we can both decide what to do accordingly.
+1 I completely agree with you and have been meaning to start a thread on this as well. I just donated $30 to the server and had I have known that it might not come back, I wouldn't have and probably would have joined another server. I am currently on the fence about staying here as I think it is a deal breaker for me. I have invested time and money into this server and really disappointed in this change.
McMMO was IceMan's form of giving back to this community. My form of giving back to this community was in the provisions of build a farm for wild players to get them investments for the future, lights that they didn't have to pay for, crops, seeds and a good plan on where to go next with farming as the basis of this information. I have lost the ability to use Wild Spawning Locations - not only for me, but those that wanted free exp, bones, or drops from skeletons - that's right, FREE I didn't ask for any money for those wanting to use it, a free port to the area and they where left to play with the skeletons. Both are very big changes to this sever that is very disappointing to me.
Anyone waiting on it can go ahead and stop. With the return of ore placement, I don't see it being added back. Strange that a tiny minority gladened by that trumps the far larger number of donators and long term members who were here in alot of cases specifically here for McMMO. I figured there would be an announcement but it looks like a stealth kill will have to suffice.
One of the main reasons McMMO was removed to my knowledge was because of bugs, like whatever it had to do with the ores. If we are waiting for McMMO to fix bugs before we re-enable it, then this bug could be fixed and McMMO could still come back.
That is true Dorc but I tracked down the forums for mcmmo on the bukkit page and was looking around on it and it sure looked like they were struggling to get up to date on patch 1.2 and we are on 1.2.4 now. Most servers don't update nearly as fast ecc does and maybe the plugin does not have enough people working on it to keep pace. Just seemed like bringing back ores was such an instant addition because it builds more of a case on why we can't or won't bring it back. A guy making a suggestion in the wrong forum that got 9 votes got a pretty big change made, just seems odd.
Mcmmo updated to 1.2.4 yesterday according to the bukkit site. So here's to hoping they actually fixed the bugs and it can be put back in. Reference site for update: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/mcmmo/
i hope mcmmo DOES not return. cause i like being able to place ores... only thing i like out of mcmmo is the Farming. thats the only thing i do.
Shame there has been no official death knell announcement. In an effort to reduce lag, might have to get rid of all plugins eventually.
