Magic Sheers Broken with one use

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  1. NessXXIII

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    Brief Description:
    Magic sheers (item#KFGBE9Q2) lost all durability in one use with a stack of 300 sheep

    Instructions:
    1. Stack 400 sheep
    2. Use sheers
    3. Watch Magic sheers break before autoereps can take effect



    How many times did you recreate this?
    1 time as i had one pair of magic sheers

    Result:
    I stacked about 400 sheep and when i used the magic sheers (item#KFGBE9Q2) the durability was all used up in about three hundred of them and broke before autoereps could take effect.

    Expected Result:
    Magic sheers don't break upon single usage

    Evidence:
    Unfortunately no video was taken when this occurred .
     
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    All shears break if there are too many sheeps. The only solution solution players have for now is to split them with dyes and keep stack lower than what could one shot shears (around 200 for umb3 shears btw). But maybe staff can keep shears from losing durability (It can save several shears)
     
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    Honestly something as powerful as magic shears should come with unbreaking 100 to counter the excess amount of wool it produces.
     
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    I tried on like 2 100 stacks and looked at durability and saw it was almost broken. I also think it should come with insane unbreaking
     
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    Hi Ness, so I was able to replicate this issue.

    By default, non-enchanted shears have a max use of 238. When unbreaking 3 is added to a pair of shears, they should last on average 4x as long as a pair of non-unbreaking shears, the basics behind this is tools last on average <LevelOfUnbreaking>+1 times as long.

    Now let's say my shears are at 200/238 durability, if I shear a non-stacked sheep, there is a 25% chance that the shears will take 1 durability of damage, now when I shear a sheep that is stacked, the shears will always take the durability amount equal to the number of sheep in the stack. So if I shear a stack of 10 sheep, 10 durabilities will always come off my shears.

    So if I shear a stack of sheep that is over 238 they will always break as the unbreaking calculation mentioned above is not taken into account, I don't see how adding a higher unbreaking value would solve this but will have a think of a possible solution, in the meantime, just shear stacks that are less than 238. Perhaps adding the "unbreakable" enchant would work, however, that will need to be tested by @UnitedStates2


    Anyways @NESS_23 I have issued you a new pair of magic shears and they can be found at /warp itemreclaim on the main server
     
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  6. NessXXIII

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    I suppose the only alternative would be to make them unbreakable altogether.

    I am wondering if durability is at 198 which I think is above autoerep trigger, could I run into the issue where sheering 200 sheep would break the sheers again?
     
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    Yes, that would cause the shears to break if you don't manually run the /fix command before.
     
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    Ah okay makes sense.
     
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    Best thing to do here is file a suggestion to make magic shears completely unbreakable.
    A @STAFF-04 Server Admin will for now verify your broken tool in the logs and generate a new one for you.
     
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    Magic Sheers are now unbreakable. :D