They were put up to prevent players from pushing afk players out of spawn. We should live in a world where this is not a problem, where players are mature enough to never think of doing that and where other players are smart enough to afk in a secure location, but we don't. We live in a world where for the greater good we should have these things so no one gets drowned or something while afk. A lot of the players who make the mistake of afking at spawn are newer players who simply don't know better and may not even know how to file a complaint or /own their tools yet. Considering that it's really not that obtrusive it's really worth avoiding the issue with this simple fix. That's my opinion, anyhow.
I don't even think you can push people if they're not moving anymore. The issue was fixed, unless I'm dumb. If someone is afk, they can't be moved. But if you're moving your character, and someone else who's moving bumps into you, you both move.
Ah, this post brings back a loving memory of mine. A memory that I cherish greatly as it allowed me to achieve great wealth in just a few minutes of persistence. T'was a long time ago when I logged in one glorious morning to find a nice lad sitting at spawn AFK. Never really talked to him before nor did I plan to, but there was something about him that struck me with great interest. It was not his skin, nor was it his name, or anything of his character's nature. It was what my eyed sought for the most during those poor times of my life on ECC. Aye, it was his shiny enchanted diamond armor and enchant diamond sword. Back in the olden days a max set of enchanted armor and sword was upwards of nearly $200,000+! Knowing this lad was AFK, I decided to take matters into my own hands and collect his wealth for myself. So what did I do? I did what any poor user would do if they saw this opportunity presented to them. Without a second thought, I tp'd back to my home to collect my most useful killing tool that I could find and then made my way back to spawn. When I arrived back, that good ol' rich fellow was still waiting for me there AFK. So, I looked around the spawn to see where I can enact my devious plan and I saw the PvP arena portal! "Hah! This is it!" I thought. So I immediately started pushing this beautiful AFK fellow over to the portal as quickly as I could. Ah, but it couldn't have been that easy right? No, it was not easy. Some white knight of a player just HAD to try and stop me from pushing him into the portal. But alas, his efforts were fruitless for it was back in those days that AFKing at spawn was at your own risk and his pleas went unheard. That did not stop him! He tried to prevent my pushing by standing in the way, but it was too late! I was already closing in on the portal and there was no stopping me now. Eventually the poor white knight of a user gave up and went back home while I continued my push onward toward glory. As I had made my way through the PvP arena portal and kept pushing the user towards his death, I could think of nothing but joy as I imagined the armor and sword already in my possession. It felt as though victory was before me, but one last obstacle stood in my way: I was not the only other person in the PvP arena. This other user saw me in my quest and wished for the glory as well! Well I will not stand this. I worked to push this AFK user all the way over here as best as I could and I was not about to lose all the loot to some freeloader! I had to devise a plan, and I had to think of something fast. I knew that if I left to get anything or anyone that my wealth was to surely be taken from me by the hands of this nobody... so I made a deal with him. If he helped me push the user in, I'd give him half the shares and we'd be all set. Luckily he agreed, which is the most I could've hoped for in those circumstances. So we pushed the AFK user together into the PvP zone and killed him in an instant! Loot and all for the taking! We even got some bonus diamond ores and a bunch of other ores as well. It was magnificent. Now, I'd like to say the story ends there, but it got better... oh so much better. With my partner still standing nearby, I thought to myself what I would do from then on. Well, luck was on my side once more it would seem... the poor lad went AFK on his own as well! "What an unlucky fellow..." Without hesitation, I pushed this (now ex) partner of mine into the PvP zone and slaughtered him for the rest of the loot. He came back shortly after, cussing and caps locking me, but it was no use. The loot was mine now and there was nothing he could do. Eventually the other user who originally had all the loot came back as well only to be greeted with an empty inventory and no way to get his items back. He had asked the mods, and even yelled in global, but all anyone responded with was, "AFK at spawn at your own risk..." Oh was he pissed. To think, this marvelous story wouldn't have been possible if pushing AFK users at spawn was illegal... or if there were ugly blockades stopping me from doing so. Also, if people weren't stupid enough to AFK in spawn that'd ruin it too. That day I became so much richer. 8/8 would push AFK users to their deaths again. +1
I absolutely agree people just shouldn't afk at spawn, but in order for this method to even approach the level of efficiency that these darn ladder barriers are doing, that would mean that a moderator would have to be at spawn 24/7 monitoring for potential afk players and I'm guessing quite a few afkers would be rather pissed they got kicked "because they were only gone for a second" or something. I think you're right, I just don't think there is anyway to approach the success rate of these ladder barriers except for what we have now, the barriers. Realistically how much time is anyone spending staring at the barriers feeling displeased? Shouldn't be that much. I thought that only worked when the player was using the forward key, but I will test this out asap to see if afk players hop while pushed into these barriers.
I agree 100%. I don't see any downside to having these ladders, not even for cosmetic reasons. I see people afk all the time in the spawn, and I really haven't seen a good reason as to why we should remove some stupid ladders from spawn. It seems so trivial that people focus on 40 ladders at the spawn, I mean is that really that much of a problem??? I constantly see people going afk in the lobby and being pushed around, with the pusher and the one who is being pushed, both being veteran members. Obviously they were placed there to stop/prevent problems, and they have done a fine job of doing that, so unless there is something that you see as a replacement for them, I don't see any logical reason as to why we should remove some 40 ladders from spawn.
-1, sometimes you dont even mean to afk at spawn ._. I was Qued in an sg and didn't even realize it. Came back from reading the forums and i was getting pushed around spawn after having been easily killed in sg id Imagine.
So we tested these, and found two possible solutions to this problem. One would be not having the ladders at all. I wasn't entirely sure what the ladders were placed there in the first place for, so if somebody knows it would be great if you could comment below or something. The second option is more unsightly, but involves having a 2 block tall wall, with ladders only on the lower half. The present ladders are not foolproof, and it is quite easy to push somebody over and onto their death. We also tested the autojump, and found that the person has to be using their key for the autojump to work, I cannot push a person and trigger their auto jump, hence I beleive just removing the ladders would be the best idea.
Disabling pushing requires putting everyone and everything in a scoreboard team and disabling pushing for those. Scoreboard teams suck with large groups of people. Lag everywhere. It should be possible to check for people in spawn and add those people to a no-push team, it would at least be less people.
