Wewinagain has been put in charge of ECC prices. Since Andrewkm dosen't want to take care of this issue (I don't blame him honestly) it seems like were at an impass. The mods want to lower farming prices while the presidents and mayors want to keep them high. So the dilemma is either to raise app prices or lower farming prices. Now there is three options to take. First we can keep farming prices high. Now in order to do this applications will also increase in price. Now this wont hurt the mayors or presidents because most of them are rich. The builders and residents on the other hand without farms will have problems because their apps will be priced much higher. Now in my opinion there is a way to fix this, first is to leave resident and mayor applications at their current prices. President and tycoon applications as well as additional towns will be increase in prices. The idea behind this is that once someone is a mayor they can afford to build a farm and thus take advantage of the higher farming prices. So their application prices should also be increased as well. The second option is to lower farming prices. Now here builders and residents will excel without a problem but in order to get president and tycoon everyone will have to work longer and harder in order to get those ranks (this excludes everyone currently their of course). The third option is to create a committee to set prices. This will be made up of all the super mods and tycoons and will be decided upon once a month by voting. Here we can see the players opinion on how the economy should be ran and the ways in which it should be balanced. Pretty much its better to get an overall opinion instead of just one from a single player. So what is the best option. Personally I don't but giving the power to one man (except for Andrewkm) seems to be like a bad idea and is causing instability in the ECC community. If anyone has looked at ECC chat today Kuk and Glooble seems to both be getting mad at other players inability to be fair. Something needs to change in order to keep the economy and this server moving forward. Please share your opinions and concerns below.
Now that pumpkins are $1 each this renders all the existing massive farms completely useless becuase pumpkins are now with zilch. Now the price is reduced it will mean that their will be a dramatic drop in spending from sections of ecc such as residents, becuase they cannot afford to waste any money. I also do not like the fact that a tycoon is now depicting the prices especially becuase I know that he does not have any large pumpkin farm so the price drop will not effect him. Quite frankly most mods don't need to earn huge sums of money in ecc simply becuase they are doing other things such as developing, running, checking lwcs etc and discussing in game topics such as prices and server disrespect...
The committee thing sounds really cool and I am in full support of having it. However, you need to remember that a balanced economy will not always make everyone happy. Sometimes things are overpowered and need lowered. It makes people angry because they do these things (because of how much money it makes them) and don't realize how overpowered it truly is. That's why a lot of the price discussions are held in privates by the Moderators/SuperMods/GameAdmins, because those 22 users are doing what's best for our server and our community in general, which is not always what is best for our pockets.
The committee thing sounds really cool and I am in full support of having it. However, you need to remember that a balanced economy will not always make everyone happy. Sometimes things are overpowered and need lowered. It makes people angry because they do these things (because of how much money it makes them) and don't realize how overpowered it truly is. That's why a lot of the price discussions are held in privates by the Moderators/SuperMods/GameAdmins, because those 22 users are doing what's best for our server and our community in general, which is not always what is best for our pockets.
Option 1: adjust applications Pros: higher farming rates = more money. President and tycoon would be badges of honor and pride. Builders and residents are virtually unaffected in the short term. Cons: farming is easily acess able to virtually any rank. Residents will become mayors and builders will become residents much faster due to no real limits. Mining, as usual, will take a hit. Option 2: lower farming prices Pros: miners will reap profits from their trade. Will influence the mining stimulus. Builders will easily become residents. Cons: mayors and presidents will encounter issues affording ranks. Many people will most likely leave the server. Lower prices will be unfavorable to many. Option 3: committee Summary: option 3 seems to me that it can be easily corrupted to a personal need. For example, some mods who own farms will try to bump that while mining mods will try to bump mining. Either way resulting in inflation. My two cents Neither way is a good option. You assume that most residents and below mine to survive while you also assume that most mayors+ will farm. Everyone has their own preference to making money. Committees are too democratic and are easily slowed down or corrupted. The solution, return ecc he way it was before July 1 2012.
We should also have some non tycoons/SM join the committee too. Like our economy now, we really need to more of the common folk in power too. Just to get the economy going, we need the common hand to be dealing with the money too. The committee should consist of: ALL SUPERMODS ALL TYCOONS 10 PRESIDENTS 15 MAYORS (such as snowbleie ) SELECT RESIDENTS (switches every vote) The committee should, too, have a limited term. SUPERMODS and TYCOONS Have a full time office, unless drop out. PRESIDENTS and MAYORS get a six month term, unless WeWin or one with higher rank allows them to stay other wise. And finaly, RESIDENTS Will have a one month/vote term... This is just the way I would think the committee should be ran, but hey, might not even happen. Lets hope Andrew sees this and LOVEs your idea!
It might be easy to think, that a vote will hurt the economy, however you need to remember that one person running the economy might not be the best. If we can get us people to talk about the prices of such items, such as farming and ores, then the economy will rise higher then before.
I seem to really like the idea of the Group-Committee. Don't forget mods in the bunch! I think that, if we allow the committee idea to go through, that the final say needs to remain within the hands of Kuke/Wewin/Andrew. While the people, in some sense, do need a bit more working room in the world of the economy, the ultimate decision must remain within the staff. We cannot allow the corruptible opinions of Tycoons, Presidents, Mayors, and the general population of E.C.C. Perhaps an unofficial suggestion coalition suggesting the prices need be added, where a collective vote be created and that vote be suggested towards the beings in charge, that vote counting for the entirety of the members of such organization? I'd be happy to start it up
A tad bit dramatic? Roll with the punches. I've already converted half of my farms to wheat and am still making money. Plus with a good axe you can still make oodles of money off pumpkins.
wow this is turning into madness What next we gonna have a parliament and elections to decide on these things? Lol lets have a parliament
I think people need to chill out on the fact that pumpkin farming might stay down. This server is listed as a "hardcore" economy server. Which in turn means, that making money, should not be easy in the slightest. Not to mention I think it is about time for mining to take the lead in the market nowadays. Pumpkin farming is still the most consistent way to make money and you can still hire workers to work your farms for you while you try something new. Here's another idea, try something original. Find an idea that no one is pressing and rule that with an iron fist. Most money making on the server lacks any originality what so ever. Take me for example, I've been plotting up new game ideas to create in my town. I can make a little bit of money off of that as well as create a source of fun and entertainment. So to end this little speech, I would just like to say one more thing. This is just a game, you play to have fun. Ranting and getting angry is just defeating the purpose of playing for fun.
i really seem to like the idea of a committee that discuss the prices and the pros and cons with each opportunity. the fact that now only 1 player can control all prices, i find ridiculous, since i like prices to make everybody satisfied, and i didn't hear many complaint when the prices were 1.5 per pump. also i recommend only lowering it to 1.25, or like 151baccardi recommended, go like 1.5-1.4 then 1.4-1-3 and so on until the right price is found.
People are having a fight against the decision I predict the pumpkin price will drop even further with 1.3 coming out.EXP will be so easy to get so enchantments for pumpkin farms will be cheaper so the pumpkin price will probably collapse after the release of 1.3. Think about the enormous outcry If that happened
Exactly scotty I was just thinking the same idea. Personally pumpkins should be .25-.5 dollars. Not only that but new COCO bean plant is also coming out as a new source of income. Lets see how that plays into our economy before everyone starts complain. Also, farming needs to go down and mining needs to be jacked up big time. Why the we even want the mining world if nobody goes their; lets find some way to make it viable.
I like it!!! An ECC government. Andrew, Kuke, and WeWin, will be the PRIME MINISTERS SuperMods and Mods will be SECRETARIES of STATE And elect Presidents and Mayors will be the SENATORS
