Denied $Coin Flip$

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  1. DiamondHogger123

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    My name is DiamondHogger123:
    A coinflip is basically a way of earning double the money the other person creates. If you do /cf or /coinflip a menu should pop up with a list of people's heads that want to do a coinflip. A coinflip is basically a way to make double money. If you create a coinflip of 4,000, when a person does /cf or /coinflip, a menu will pop up with a list of people who are represented by their head. The menu will have heads with names and bets, and if you click on one, another menu pops up and..... The menu basically has the two people's heads doing the coinflip and a count down will be in the menu too. This menu also has a coin rolling either heads or tails. When the rolling slows down, either heads or tails will show. You will know who you are because it says in the 1st menu.
    One person is the creator, and one person is the person who clicked the creator's head in the 1st menu. When the countdown is over, one out of the two people will win double the money. To create a coin flip, do /cf or /coinflip create (amount of money you bet) (heads or tails). Your head will pop up on the menu with the amount of money you bet when people do /cf or /coinflip. The minimum of the money you should bet is 100 and the maximum is 5,500. When you click the person's head it will show weather they are doing heads or tails. If the creator does heads, you are tails. The heads are also spinning in the coinflip too. Like a dice. If the creator bet 1,000, the total money you could win is $2,000! There should be coin flip tax where everybody has to pay at least $0.25 to $1 during every coinflip. Thank you.

    Here is an example from a server that shut down a year ago, and you should see what info the menu has: http://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcKch9qv0n9e0OA/giphy.gif
     
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    While I agree this would be a great addition, there are people that will always say it's rigged.
     
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    +1 i like it
    how can they say its rigged if the server controls whether its heads or tails? unless i read it wrong
     
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    Do you understand what I meant? People will say it's rigged if they lose. Have you seen lotto some days? Unless the server releases the source code, there is no real way of telling that it's not rigged.
     
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    +1 if it has coinflip tax ;)
     
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    ohhhh i see what you mean. But there will be whiners in any luck based game. Cant help it
     
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    I added coinflip tax.
     
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    TL;DR, too complicated. If you can make me understand it, maybe I'll support this suggestion. For now let's stick to the easy stuff, eh?
     
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    1v1 lotto, or warp debt. We won't allow free money spawned in via a way like this
     
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    Make bad odds then?
     
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    If both parties are putting up money, how is it:
    a. spawning in free money, someone loses everything, someone wins the other players money, no spawned in money.

    b. could put a 10% tax which means people wanna 1vs1, they can with a expense of 10% like tax.

    Dunno how its free spawned in money though, one doubles their money, the other loses all theirs.

    https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/coinflipper.33916/
     
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    We're more concerned with the "trackability" of it. Hence it being "free" money.

    Realistically it'd have to be custom coded for it to be usable, not something I need to waste time on.
     
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    +1 if it can be taxed. People seem to like gambling and this would give people a controlled way to go 1 on 1 with another player. Sure they could always 1 vs 1 in lotto, but there is not guarantee that a 3rd player won't come in and 1 ticket the pot, meaning lotto can't be a true 1 vs 1 like this plugin offers. I mean sure, the player could bet at casinos, but then you are putting your trust in a person who could scam you over a plugin that won't? Please excuse my ignorance here because I know very lil about plugins, but I have yet to see someone file a complaint for lotto scamming them, but see loads about casinos scamming or rigging. I would think the server would be happy to look for better ways to cut back on those complaints. If I was to gamble, I would much rather use a more controlled and 100% fair means than put my trust in another player as human error is common when comparing the two. As for being able to track the money, why? Can the money be tracked through lotto and casinos? If so, what makes those different from this plugin?

    Even if this isn't accepted, maybe it can give another game to casinos for the people who don't mind taking a chance on betting at casinos.

    TL;DR: plugins are safer and more controlled than player ran gambling facilities, we have lotto and there is not issues, don't see why this plugin would be any different besides letting people truly be able to 1 vs 1 another player. +1
     
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    I was on a server that had coin flip. Sometimes people would just straight up bet loads of money. I originally thought it meant flipping a coin IRL, which almost got me scammed.
    Not trying to be rude, but there are a lot of in game gamblers on this server (cough @volcarona955 cough) I think coin flipping would just cause a lot of drama and just major debt for everyone. Coin flipping is dangerous y'all.
     
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    There have been lottery-related complaints before, but they are usually denied as the staff team does not enforce lotto team agreements of any kind.

    Lottery:
    Code:
    [12:34:56] 314 issued server command: /lot buy 314
    
    I'm not sure whether the lottery creates separate logs and I can't check it at the moment.
    EDIT:
    I'm reading this sentence as "Trade logs (i.e. the files that include /pay and [trade] sign interactions) also include lottery wins".

    Casinos:
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    [12:34:56] [L] Pivillean: You have lost your bet.
    [12:34:57] 314 issued server command: /pay Pivillean 31415
    
    Regarding traceability:
    I don't have enough time (or motivation) to check the suggested plugin's source code, but the Spigot page doesn't mention any logs (even though it does mention saving statistics with MySQL, but it's going to be a lot less informative than actual log files).
     
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