Since the update to 1.1, we can no farm apples as we farm trees. I think that we should be able to start selling them to the server, since as of right now they can only be sold to players. I do not have an idea for the pricing since I have not figured out how many apples you can get from a tree. I just wanted to start a thread about it to see what others thought on the subject as well.
Also, to add to this, you can now craft golden apples from essentially 1 gold ingot and an apple. (1 gold bar to 9 nuggets, 8 nuggets needed around an apple to make it golden) The price needs to be adjusted accordingly.
Well an apple has a 1/200 chance of breaking from a leaf, so I believe that we should increase it up dramatically...
@ Rez i started a new single player world to play around for a bit. I cut down about 10 trees, and about 3 apples fell out. Nuff said. Trees have lots of leaves on them...
You got pretty good luck then. But I say maby 25$ for a Golden apple. Due too the "Overpowerness" in pvp.
It can take only two or three minutes, possibly less, to cut down ten trees. Also remember that we have mcMMO for tree cutting and a much easier time getting diamond tools on here than in single player. :b
zzzzzzz You're still not going to make a living off of cutting trees, can you guys see what i'm getting at? 2$ to hit a pumpkin, with an axe, which takes 1 second. Now, here we have a 1/200 chance of getting an apple from a tree, which grow about 10-20 leaves. Now, that means that every tree will yield a 1% chance of dropping an apple. (If the tree has 20 leaves) Cmon now, can someone really make a living/profit off of harvesting trees? I would like to see more initiative, since we do have mcmmo, to have people do woodcutting as another revenue. With the addition of apples, there is more and more incentive to get into this business. Point is, I'd like to see more options to make money. I would like 'all of you' to stop redirecting the points I am making. So what if we have easier access to diamond tools and we have mcmmo, why don't we look at it in another way? Right now, apple farming/woodcutting isn't even CLOSE to mining/farming, I'd like to see this get a price bump, to add another way to earn money on the server. It would provide a new incentive to train woodcutting skill, and encourage tree farms, which I haven't seen many of on the server.
I second rezonl's points. When I derailed a suggestion thread into a farming vs mining thread, I bought up woodcutting as well. Apples provides the perfect opportunity for that, and should not be missed out on.
I think some testing with the trees needs to be done. Try to figure out a price that would put tree farms on par, or well, as close as possible to pumpkins and what not.
The thing is, if trees are worth just as much as pumpkins/melons, then the world would start becoming bare of trees.... I can see people running around the wild cutting down every tree they see, or even worse, just the leaves and leaving the logs... This would make the wild bare of trees, as if this wasn't a problem already. I know people can make farms, but nobody will make a farm if they can make just as much without one. If it's on par with pumpkins/melons, then the same thing will happen that happened with pumpkins; Everyone will go to tree farming, and abandon everything else. Next thing you know, we get a bunch of builders saying "OMG where are all the TREES?!?!?"... It would be too easy. It doesn't cost money to set up, you go the wild, and BAM! Trees. If things go how I think they would, then our world would have no trees in no time. And no, people just going around replanting wouldn't help. Builders would still just cut them down and not replant. In fact, that brings another point. All other farmers would be upset, because some random builder can make as much money as them from something they can do off the bat with no preparing or paying large sums of money... Those farmers worked hard, they don't want to see a builder can make as much money with less effort. Apple prices could go up a bit, but please don't make it on par with pumpkins/melons/any other method. I can tell it wouldn't end well.
Because running around in the wild harvesting trees vs creating a controlled tree farm is smart, right? This isn't an issue. For someone to realize the profits in this business, they would create a time-efficient tree farm. Not to mention, we have a /kit starter. Which gives them logs/sticks/coal.
we already get that on a day to day basis =p You do make a good point about people just abusing the wild for trees. I really can not think of a way around that, if the prices were to be made even with other methods of farming.
builders and residents would go around cutting as many trees down as possible to make an easy cash flow. Residents do not always have the option to make a time efficient farm, being that they do not own a town most of the time.
How does making a farm make you more money...? And also, what does the starter kit have to do with this? lol
Uh, a controlled tree farm can result in more organized patterns, less walking from tree to tree. They can also be designed to allow only certain height trees, resulting in maximum tree destruction and less walking around, boosting yourself up to get the leaf decay.
Still doesn't really matter though, there is, and always will be people who go around cutting down trees that aren't in a farm and destroying the wild.
Builders already do this, we get on average like 50 new users every 2 hours. Can't stop the from destroy trees, now can we?
The point is, with a price raise like that, it will become much, much worse. It's already a problem, yes, but ten times worse if the price raises.
