Accepted [All Main Servers Suggestion] Vanish Deny Flag

big +1 should definitly be an option

 

-1.

The only way to accomplish this would be two flags: one to force you to do /v off as you enter a region, and another to prevent you from doing /v while in the town. Thoughts on vanish aside I'm definitely not supporting allowing players to designate commands that get run on region entry. Way too abusable.

 

+1 would have a lot of good uses on the server

 

I’d be inclined to change my -1 to a +1 if that is possible. I know it chalks down to user error, but I was in vanish all day yesterday because I failed to see it even in tab. Again, I realize that’s my fault, but just wanted to give an example that still not everyone sees it. If there is a way to have a message displayed on the screen (similar to a welcome message many towns have) then that would be sufficient in my opinion.

 

I am neither +1 or -1 on this but did want to mention a few things,

If this were to be implemented I believe it would have to be done through a GameAdmin application, I am unsure how easy it is to allow a regular user to simply block one command/Force a command on another, because as was stated you would be required to run a command such as “vanish off” along with block the “vanish” command. The way the permissions work (I think, not 100%) would allow the user to then disable commands such as “fly” or “spawn” leaving someone stuck in said town, along with it forcing a user to run a command you can then turn off fly for a user as they enter the town, which means they could drop from very high up to their death.

 

-1
tldr for below: A lot of issues can be fixed with entry deny flags. If you don't want an entry deny flag, then have a staff member come over.

You can't compare SG and PvP arenas to a town. No duh someone shouldnt be able to vanish without an invis potion in sg or pvp. Having it turn off when entering these makes sense so people don't glitch /v into arenas.

Entry Deny flag for non-members if they "aren't supposed to be in a town"

Entry Deny flag for non-members if they "aren't supposed to be in a town"

Entry Deny flag for non-members if they "aren't supposed to be in a town"

If someone's trolling in vanish, call over a staff member to handle it. And again, Entry Deny flag for non-members if they "aren't supposed to be in a town"

"There should be no need for a user to enter a players town that they are not added to in vanish" -entry deny flag prevents this
If you want to be added to the town for legit reasons, not "I want to troll your residents," I'm sure you can ask a mayor to be added.

Sucks for people who are trying to fly around to look for towns then get knocked out of /v when they accidently fly over your town

Its not a fair solution to deny people who don't want to be seen to be forced into the light. Why should people who are vanished have to get thrust out of /v when they enter a town for a non-trolling reason?
Besides, it seems as though most of your issues stem from having a plot town and people messing with people inside that town. If you dont add them to the region, they cant place down blocks to troll, just throw items.

Again, if its a build, I don't see how people can get trolled. If its a plot town, they'll need to get added to the town anyways...

They could... cover the dispenser... with a block. Unlocked things are fair game. If they went into an area where they weren't supposed to, thats a matter of tp feature abuse. Again, if there are problems with someone trolling in /v, staff are available to help.

I guess you might consider staff in investigating a matter in /v in a town as a "bad intention." Maybe someone's flying over, maybe someone is helping someone, maybe, just maybe, they forgot they were in /v.

It negatively impacts /v users because then they get booted from /v

I'll be honest, the times a vanished user trolls in a town doesn't happen a lot (at least to the point where I hear about it). If you don't say "I'm getting a staff member here," then they wont leave instantly.

And people who don't want random lurkers to come into their town can get a entry-deny flag with the same thing. If you want to share a build, then I don't see how non-members of the town can troll. If you want a casino, unlocked things are fair game. Towns are the main area of concern, but again, if youre against random lurkers, just deny the region. If its a plot town, youre adding people to it already. If its someone within the town, its a matter of calling staff over discretely so it can be handled appropriately.

 

daymn
-1 for reasons he stated above

 

Investigating how to do this to make both sides happy.
No promises, might not happen at all.

 

After our next maintenance, the following flags will be added to TownControlPlus3 as they are custom flags coded by ECC.
- vanish-entry (Allow/Disallow vanished players to enter your town)
- vanish-entry-deny-message (Self explanatory)
- Staff will be able to bypass these flags of course.