Denied [All Main Servers Suggestion] New prestige

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  1. Johndomx

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
    All Main Servers
    Short title for your suggestion:
    New prestige
    What are you suggesting:
    A new prestige that requires a chest full (I believe it would almost fill a double chest for one of each magic item available) in return for 10 to 15 percent prestige
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    This would take out a good bit of magic items back out from the economy, it doesnt take too long to grind for a magic tool nowadays and many players have magic tools now which is personally becoming pretty common, giving no significance as a lot of people will have the same tools eventually. This in turn takes out both magic tools and their total value from the economy for a new prestige giving also more significance to magic tools since you have the option to work towards grinding for them again.
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    #1 Johndomx, Feb 25, 2021
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    Neat idea, but definitely not that high of a percentage. I'd be fine with all magic items with all respective levels used for a +10% bonus when turned in.

    +1 Magic Item Collector Medal
     
  3. Johndomx

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    Yeah might be too high of a prestige bonus, but 10% is still a good amount to be given in return :)
     
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    -1 I like the prestige system being partially divorced from just being already rich on main
     
  5. CoalMiner4life

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    if it is every tool/item and all levels then im okay with this being added, but needs to be legit everything.

    +1 if all tools/items and levels of each tool/item
     
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  6. Johndomx

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    Yeah its every magic item and tool from level 1 to level 3 :)
     
    #6 Johndomx, Feb 25, 2021
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    +1 prestige percentages are low as you only get 200% sell hand from prestige 10.

    240% with full prestige and lvl2 armor

    360% with full prestige and magic item

    not even including mythic boost of 10% and stackable.

    we need more prestige as this is not currently enough ^

    (not sure the sarcasm is playing out here)
    In all seriousness -1

    Prestiges should be a reward for actual work put into a task, whether that work is put in by oneself or one pays another to put the work in for them

    it’s enough that we have crate collector, which is already very much p2w

    if we want a magic sink then we should add magic items to crate collector


    That’s not even bringing up the fact that prestige percentages are insanely high and we absolutely do not need more of them

    But at the end of the day what happens happens so I guess we will see
     
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    I'm gonna have to -1 this only due to magic items having a boost in drops and essentially making the prestige an easy p2w bonus for those that can drop tons of money on drops.
     
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    Pretty much every prestige is pay to get it except a couple
     
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    Not really. Yes, p2w makes it easier, faster, and less stressful to get it, but every prestige we have is obtainable without p2w options. Hell, for example, my single prestige I have I got without paying a single USD (Booklet). The only one you can argue is p2w is Top 3 islands in sb, and maybe just sb in general, but I have seen a few people prestige without paying a single USD.

    But onto what I think about this suggestion:

    I initially was going to +1 this, but @Videowiz92 makes a great point. I would love another prestige, so long as we can cap the amount of prestiges that give a sell bonus to ten, but this probably isn't a good one to add. All other prestiges, as mentioned, are obtainable without p2w (although it is hard). This one will have no f2w option, so thus why I need to give it a -1
     
  12. Johndomx

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    I totally would be cool with a magic crate collector medal for a magic sink but i feel no one would be willing to sacrifice all of their magic items for a forum medal without something like prestige to compensate the loss as it is a lot of ecd worth. Even if the prestige value was reduced to less than 10% it would still be something that the player feels gratification for doing so :)
     
  13. Johndomx

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    That is a valid reason however its getting all of the items in the game eventually by buying them from players who are willing to sell them or god drops which is a cash sink if they are willing so spend a fortune for obtaining. This is also not a bad thing because its money taken from the rich, given back into the economy by taking away magic items that are becoming too occurent for most players, theres no real satisfaction or significance anymore in having magic tools since everyone will eventually have them. Getting rid of them back into the economy would help keep the flow of obtaining magic items and also would keep it more interesting for players that desire to do so. I dont think there are many players with every magic item on the server anyways so it would take a good bit of time to obtain as well :)
     
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    First you say prestiges are not p2w, then you say prestiges are a little p2w (Yes, p2w makes it easier, faster, and less stressful to get it) THEN you say 1 prestige is p2w and then the whole of skyblock (4 out of the current 10 prestiges!!) is p2w, which one is it?? I've never seen someone contradict themself so many times in one paragraph before
     
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    No, what I said is they are all obtainable f2w and have seen people get the prestiges f2w. I will admit I did accidentally delete the part when typing it that people did get skyblock prestige without paying USD, but I have seen people prestige f2w with every single prestige option, except Top 3 islands.

    Where I think you might've misread by mistake when I mentioned skyblock is p2w prestige. Keep in mind I said you can maybe argue, didn't say it is p2w, so you can't state that I said it is p2w. If someone can prestige in something without paying for features etc., then you cannot logically state it is p2w. I am not denying that a majority of sb prestiges had p2w aspects, but you cannot put words in my mouth that I said it is p2w. That is selective speech.

    Yes, top 3 islands is the closest p2w prestige we have. I will state that if it makes you happy mate.

    I agree with the suggestion, if there can be a f2w option, which there is not. A lot of long-time players are leaving ECC because of f2w options getting snuffed out and overshadowed by p2w (and what people describe as the recent spike in toxicity, but I digress). That is why I am hesitant about additions of more p2w aspects. I've been here and witnessed times when ECC almost died a few times, and most of them are from the shift towards an almost p2w-filled server.
     
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    There has been a large amount gaslighting recently. Legitimate concerns or observations being labeled as toxic or hostile.
     
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    Let's be real here: the ECC community on the whole has never been fantastic about separating disagreement from toxicity.
     
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    This. It doesn't require any other line of text to state my view.

    -1
     
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    Points that i was thinking of saying was already mentioned
    You underestimate a 10-15% increase in earnings
     
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