Accepted [All Main Servers Suggestion] Coloured Ads Cooldown

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  1. Ancastal

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
    All Main Servers
    Short title for your suggestion:
    Coloured Ads Cooldown
    What are you suggesting:
    Reduce the cooldown of coloured ads to a reasonable waiting time (10-20 minutes)
    Why? Read the section below.
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    Advertising is the foundation of every economy. People must be stimulated to buy and sell, instead of being restricted. People, and especially newer players, must know what is there to buy from old, wealthier players who must be incentivized to sell their goods, instead of hoarding them.

    -- Most wealthy players have stopped advertising after the change. --
    The consequence is that newer players constantly ask in global whether there are casinos on the server, public farms or prestige shops, where they can sell their goods and where they can buy and they won't have an answer unless a good soul tells them in global. The ads in /ch tr are the same two or three ads, every single day. Last but not least, the change also applies to people who want to advertise their events in-game.

    Why should we reduce the current 1-hour cooldown for coloured ads:

    Reason #1 Evidence shows that contracts have been much rarer after the change of trade rules and this might be one of the reasons. The other reason, of course, might be the recent low player count.
    Contracts before February 14th: 19 contracts.
    Contracts after February 14th: 7 contracts.

    Reason #2 Coloured ads were never an issue in the first place and changing the cooldown to 10 minutes would have been enough. Most people prefer reading coloured ads, than ugly grey ads.

    Reason #3 People have paid 60$ for a feature, that has now been greatly limited. People buy Patron for coloured ads and nothing else.

    Reason #4 With the current low playercount, I hardly see it becoming an issue anytime soon and however this rule will be changed.
    Other information:
    I know that andrewkm said that any suggestions regarding this change wouldn't be accepted for at least a month and I have never filed a suggestion on the forum before, however I think that actions should be taken to resolve this situation.
    Plugin or custom addition:

    One suggestion per form:
    I Understand.
     
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  2. kenny0011

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    The cooldown on coloured ads was an unnessesary change. The issue was never "coloured ads were a problem", just any ad was a problem at the constant 5 minute cooldown when chat was particularly dead. Infact, I am more offended by the walls of grey that appear than coloured ads personally.

    Furthermore, there are ways to bypass the coloured ad cooldown anyway via interactive chat. I think its rediculous that perfectly legitimate uses of interactive chat have been disabled (such as [/command]). Infact, there still remains some bypasses that work (more specifically with renaming items and using [/item]). Are we going to disable that next as well?

    If people really don't like adverts, then /ch leave tr exists.
     
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  3. GoProDojo

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    +1 nowadays I see more colored alerts than colored ads and I’d prefer to see player ads. It literally was an useless change because /ch leave tr was existent and patron for colors
     
  4. Ishanv

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    +1 I, for one, stopped advertising with these additions and I think it makes people less likely to buy patron because the main reason of buying patron is to get color codes in chat which people usually use for ads.
     
  5. techy88

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    +1 While I agree ads were a bit too frequent color was never a problem. It made the ads stand out, which was most players main reason for buying patron. Most players largely ignore or miss gray ads. At least with color ads in chat the gray ads stood out in between them. It is mostly gray mess now, especially when multiple ads go off at once. I personally only run my ad once an hour now, b/c of the color restrictions. I feel like running a gray ad is pointless as it would be missed 90% of the time. I see players asking in chat all the time where to buy/sell stuff, oblivious to the gray ad that ran 1m or less prior to them asking.
     
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    The ads every 5 minutes were a lot to handle.

    But I don’t think it was necessarily the color that created the issue; I’d argue that it had more to do with block text ads in conjunction with frequency.

    Frequency has been addressed with extending cooldown to 10 minutes for grey ads and 1 hour for color ads; this helps tremendously with the amount of ads flowing through chat on a regular basis. However, now we are looking at a lot more grey blocks of text (which are arguably just as trashy as the frequent colored ads) due to an incredibly lengthy cooldown on color ads.

    tldr - people post ads regardless of color or grey every ten minutes. Color cooldown being 1 hour is overly restrictive and doesn’t enrich chat or create a better experience on ecc
     
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    +1, whether we have a wall of grey trade ads or colored trade ads, it doesn't make a difference. Let us use color again pls.
     
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    10min cooldown should apply on coloured ads aswell!
     
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    I always advertised exclusively in grey for two reasons:
    1. I'm too lazy to make a colorful ad
    2. Grey text stood out because everyone else uses color

    +1 to reduce the grey competition so my lazy walls of ugly grey text can stand out again
     
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    #9 Kozz, Mar 4, 2021
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  10. andrewkm

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    We've changed the trade channel message cooldown to 5 minutes, and the color cooldown to 10 minutes.
    Will not be accepting further suggestions for the trade channel at this time.
     
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