Skyblock Reset

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  1. marsel_2000

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    I know this suggestion thread won't affect much, since the damage has already been done, but I still want to at least try... Keep in mind this is only my opinion of how skyblock should be.

    So... Skyblock has had a recent restart which changed the server drastically, it changed it from our beloved hard skyblock to a very easy new skyblock... everything became too easy to get... the economy changed drastically, Iron/Gold farm have no use any more... also the MCMMO thingy...

    So first of all the spawners, Spawners on skyblock imo is a really bad idea, they make the game way too easy and will have a negative affect on the economy, also, they make farms such as food farms, IG farms, Gold farms useless.
    Building a 5x5 platform and putting a spawner in the middle is horrible, they defy the whole point of skyblock which is to be hard.

    Second of all, MCMMO, MCMMO is mostly for factions and prison, they're there because there's a lot of pvp and there they're quite useful, in skyblock how ever they're not, they only make the game easier and make it less fun to play.


    Third of all, the kits and commands. The new added kits and added commands are just quite frankly (don't get mad at me) dumb. They're way too Op, they give way too much and some items shouldn't even be given with the kits, also /god for skylegends... what's up with that...


    The new Skyblock server is basically the opposite of what the older server was and what I think the community in general wanted or was looking for/hoping for, most of the old players, the ones that have been playing for years, the ones who have been playing since the server first opened don't like the new skyblock... This is basically a thread to show the backlash and anger of some of the community members.

    I know this will make me somewhat of a "hated" player, but if I can do anything to change what is happening right now, then I'm going to certainly try.

    Thanks for reading this long post/rant I hope you actually listen to what was written above.
     
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  3. Rainingrecon

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    Full support.

    I'm honestly surprised that skyblock went through all of these changes. While something needed to be done, I don't think this was the right thing.

    Skyblock was the first gamemode I got into (skipped right over vanilla survival, go figure). This was the place where I quickly learned how the mechanics of the game worked, and shortly after how to exploit these mechanics in various farms. Now, I feel the server is way to easy. I mean, diamond tools and iron armor in the starter kit?

    I know there will be people who want an easier time, but the difficulty of skyblock was what attracted me to it (and others as well, I'm willing to bet). I'm already nostalgic of the different islands from before the reset, if only because I know that those island actually took work to build. I don't want to bash on the server so soon after the reset, but I truly believe that any pride/happiness of anything I build will be marginalized because of how easy this server is now.
     
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    i agree as well i understand that some changes were needed but i do believe that it was not in the best interest of the people
     
  5. marsel_2000

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    This is exactly my point, I also went straight to skyblock and literally learned everything I know from it, (From PVPing to building complicated farms)
    and making it this easy is pointless, yes some of the players like it because it's easy but wait a few weeks and everyone would be bored since there's no point in resource gathering, now having the biggest gold farm means nothing because you have spawners everywhere... Having the most amount of IG spawners also means nothing... imo the server was a big let down
     
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    I don't think they ever talked to the people, I know swayz was apart of the community for a while but I don't actually think they ever talked to the community and what the community wanted.
     
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    Iron Farms: As Iron Golem spawners are very expensive, you can still use villagers to create an iron farm, Iron can become a major source of money for your island, Gold Farm/Pigman Spawners are used to build up your island level each gold block is 1.5 island levels, you can also sell the rotten flesh you receive. MCMMO has multiple advantages such as Super breaker for mining, salvaging old gear/lower kits you don't want and acrobatics so you take less fall damage/roll when you hit the ground etc.

    When you first begin you will believe the kits are OP but to be honest, that will slowly diminish once your island starts to earn you millions and you spend that money on spawners or increasing your island level. Also /god for Skylord is suppose to be OP but that's only because they are highest donator rank.

    If you haven't seen it yet, the owners are trying to promote pvp on Skyblock by adding in a pvp area at spawn, also through Zombie spawners for example you can grind to increase your axe and swords level then which allows a new skyblock aspect of pvp'ing your peers.

    I do see your point here though that it is different from the old skyblock you and your peers are used to but, your judging the new skyblock less than 12 hours into its release without actually trying to enjoy the new aspects which the owners have unlocked for us. Saying that though everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I personally like the new skyblock better due to it unlocking more aspects of the game

    I did the same thing, I started playing on a Skyblock server which was similar to AEM's old skyblock with my IRL friends before I even played any of server/gamemode, but over the years I have adapted to changes performed on servers and I have learnt that these changes are made for the better, they do this to try and please the majority of the playerbase

    Farms are still very useful such as Cacti farms which are a big money maker, auto Pumpkin and melon farms also generate a lot of money and are quite simply and cheap to make. With gathering resources their is still a major point, Eg. Mining is a big thing due to being the only way to gather diamonds and emeralds to increase island level apart from using your kits which have a timer and buying from /shop which is very expensive to boost players trading their items. Gold farms do mean something, because both gold farms are still possible to make using obsidian or Spawners, at I mentioned above gold farms increase your island level and can make you lots of money, and IG Spawners are implemented so iron can become a major source of income as well.

    I know for a fact Sway invited some of the people from the teamspeak server over to view the new skyblock and some of the players had the same views as you until we explained why we did things and how the new economy will work, those players were actually quite astonished/pleased and did suggest things which Sway and Hayden ended up changing/updating.

    I see how everyone is quite honestly surprised because it is a BIG Change, and you guys must not have played on any other Skyblock servers because this new economy is actually a big hit, which can attract hundreds of new players, This new economy promotes player trading, grinding mcmmo levels and AFK'ing at your farms so you earn money while your away, this is possible through Profit shops, which is basically a buy sign set-up on one of your farms Eg. Cacti and while your afk'ing people can buy your cacti buy for 10k (example) and sell it for 15k (example) so they make 5k profit, while you make 10k. Even though you don't make that extra 5k you will soon realise with your bigger farms it can take over an hour to empty all your chests, compared to having people constantly at your island buying your cacti instantly before your chests fill up.
     
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    @TheJackLC

    I appreciate your thoughts on the reset, but this server doesn't feel like skyblock to me anymore. It feels like another minigame to me, like skywars or zombies.

    McMMO and my opinion:
    I don't really see the point of this. Why do we need mining or wc abilities? Swords and axes? I don't need to have a high level in swords to kill mobs if I can plan out my farms correctly. Granted there are some perks from some McMMO abilities that are nice (like salvage) but I don't think I'd ever use them because of how easy it is to get resources now.

    And pvp? While I don't pvp in minecraft at all, I don't think McMMO would really be all that useful in pvp. Sure, you can get bleed off on your opponent, or break his armor faster with your axe (or whatever, if it's not clear I'm not into McMMO), but did you beat your opponent, or did the system?

    Maybe I've just put on the nostalgia goggles, but when I can't even consistently farm cobble...

    -Edit-
    I've considered using blocks like lapis and redstone for decorative and planning purposes because I've come by so much of the stuff within maybe an hour's worth of afk mining.
     
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    I am with marsel on this one. I enjoy parts of minecraft that challenge me. One thing I have come to avoid is over powered servers and games. These games were made for the majority of the minecraft playing community that is under the age of 12. The challenges in skyblock basically gave me a thrill when I finally accomplished something. This is honesty a disappointment in my opinion. This is not the only server that has ruined the way things work on minigames. One game type I used to like was prison, before every prison server was op and had no challenge. The classic skyblock server has turned into an op skyblock server because of mcmmo, the ore generator, and the new controlled economy. I just wish this hadn't happened to the server I love dearly.
     
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    idk why you guys think this, this skyblock is better
     
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    Do you have any reasons why this server is better than before the reset?
     
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    I like the voting slightly better. And voting parties was a great idea. Just wish rewards weren't so op...
     
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    As more time goes on, it's becoming increasingly difficult to reset Skyblock or any other server on that matter, due to prior purchases, as well as people who've already been grinding out their islands since the first hour it was up. The only reasonable way I can think of Skyblock being reset with these changes is if the WHOLE Skyblock community comes to a common consensus that these problems are worth resetting for. The owners will have to deal with refunding players for their purchased items, and the brutal truth is that a reset involves a lot more than removing spawners and mcMMO, but rather, restarting an entire economy/server from scratch and giving people their money back.

    TL;DR: Consider the consequences of resetting.
     
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    They already restarted the whole of skyblock, and no they don't need to refund, it states in the terms & conditions that
    You will not chargeback, dispute, reverse any payments. Also what about the players that have been playing since the server first opened, those players that supported the server through EVERYTHING, they had no say in it. Also AEM skyblock before the reset was unique, it wasn't like every other skyblock server, it was different and special and that's why we loved it, but now it's like every other server, it has the same economy, the same plugins, the same everything, AEM skyblock was our loved skyblock, and the only reason I'm mad after this change ia because they changed the whole essence of AEM skyblock was, they changed what AEM skyblock was loved for. That's what makes me mad
     
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    Even though it was unique, It's uniqueness didn't attract a player base, I do agree though it was different and special.
     
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    Which is quite sad, I really loved it, but I guess can't do much about it any more... Though I do wish the best for the new owners and staff members.
     
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    more people, a lot of better stuff than it had before the reset. should I go on?
     
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    More stuff doesn't mean better, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you might like it, but I don't, that's the difference in opinions. It's all relative.
     
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    He never said "More stuff" he stated "a lot of better stuff" which is contradicting your statement (I think I used that word properly o_O)
     
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    Unique? More like broken and generic from 2012

    The reason you don't see skyblock servers with an economy like that anymore is because people don't enjoy it anymore apart from the few that have been playing that kind of skyblock server for years and nothing but.
     
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