Minecraft Name: TaylorBros22 Suggestion: I would like to propose a new way suggestions could be handled. My idea is that all suggestion include a non-bias poll and people can vote on that. Then depending on the vote, depends if the suggestion is implemented. Reason: I acknowledge the fact that andrew/phys/nicit make decisions and are the rightful people to, but I have seen some suggestions declined because one person from the team doesn't like it, yet the entirety of the people who commented had a '+1' with a valid reason. If it was this way, the community may feel more involved in the way ECC changes and get's better. Any Other Information: Obviously if the suggestion involves a lot of detailed coding/coding has to be paid for, that's andrew's decision but if it is just a small bit then it could be done? Also troll suggestions etc would not be done in the way I've suggested. Let me know what you think! Link To This Plugin/Is this a custom addition?: No plugins, just a simple line in the sticky thread saying that all suggestions must include a poll
+1 we also need another suggestion week when andrew/nicit/phys went through most of the current suggestions and accepted/denied them. The community has no clue what to suggest because we rarely get definitive feedback.
So I've been on decision-making side of things before, so probably can offer an opinion based on experience that not many others can do. My experience of suggestions is that the player community is in a position to say whether they would like to see something on the server, but in no position to have a point of view on the implementation or feasibility of suggestions. ECC is a lot more complex than many people give it credit for. If running an economy server on this scale was easy to do, then there would be many more about - It isn't just a simple case of slapping together some plugins and hoping for the best. Similarly, just because someone has seen something done on a different server doesn't always mean it would work here. With all due respect to the non-admin players, I don't think you can properly appreciate this until you have been on the other side of the table. Things that may seem like a good idea to a casual player may not be good for the server, but without years of experience of the behind-the-scenes element of the server, you may not understand why. I'm not saying that public opinion shouldn't be important - In fact, I think it should carry great weight. I just think that this suggestion is far too black & white. Implementing suggestions based on an arbitrary number of Yes votes, or a specified % of Yes-to-No votes does not take into account that at that stage, the people who are best placed to determine the feasibility of implementing a suggestion haven't voted. Trust me when I say that public opinion does influence decisions, but it shouldn't be the sole deciding factor. You have already raised one issue yourself, and there are many more related to that which would lead to similar issues. It may be a slight exaggeration, but the way that I see this suggestion is taking the decision making power away from the handful of best-placed people, and placing it in the hands of the masses who aren't as well placed (or placed at all).
I'm in between. Limits must be set and some decisions must be made by the staff team. Not the public alone. More detail would be needed in this suggestion for my "+1" but as of now I'm leaning to -1
I do like this idea, however with certain suggestions this could be an issue, for example, someone posts a thread suggesting that we remove kits from ECC, and we all know how many users that dislike kits... so I would bet the majority of the users would say to remove them. So what I mean is that people would vote on the poll according the advantages it brings to themselves, not thinking about the whole community most of the time, only what benefits their position on the server. I do think however that polls should be taken into account of course, however just not to the extent where they decide whether or not suggestions are implemented.
I agree with you on this, but I don't think Taylor meant for the vote to be the only thing that matters. I think Taylor is just suggesting a way for the higher ups to see how the community is reacting to certain suggestions. Correct me if I'm wrong Taylor
If that is how the suggestion is intended, then I may have missed the point slightly. I just read.. .. as meaning it would be implemented if the vote was a positive one for the suggestion.
Whilst I understand where you're coming from, and I trust your judgement, I maybe worded the suggestion badly. After reading the comments, I'm leaning towards @Dccciz 's tweak, where the community have more of a say. I just thimk that we should be involved a bit more than we currently are Thanks everyone for your comments so far! Especially @Dewsy92 as I know you know what you are talking about
I agree with Taylor that as a community we would feel more involved if we were able to vote on each suggestion and understand exactly what Dewsy is saying in regards to the implementation. Maybe if the decision makers would just let us know they have looked at the suggestions and let us know a status. Perhaps this? Sub Categories - Accepted Denied Evaluating And if a suggestion is not accepted in a month or two it would automatically be denied. It would be awesome if before a suggestion is made, the player should be required to search the forums.
I personally prefer to see opinions given as posts - these often give more constructive feedback than a simple poll. Polls are also very much subject to kinds of abuse. People using a post to explain why the disagree helps us understand why it might be a bad idea and provide alternatives to help fix the suggestion. Agreements still often contribute good ideas. (as for other posts regarding suggestions; I look at suggestions every day and forward ones I deem practical or handle them myself. However as stated above ideas that are received well can still be denied for other reasons)
My abolish nether star server price thread was deleted even though almost 100% of the people who replied to it were in support of it.
